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It's not useless, remember that full-screen is thing?

by sekai 5y ago

Hamuko 5y ago
Now you get the same amount of window space without losing the menu bar.
ericsoderstrom 5y ago
Think you misunderstood the parent comment. Full screen doesn't somehow add pixels into a bezel
cassianoleal 5y ago
Full screen doesn't extend to the sides of the camera on current laptops. All that's there is the bezel.
ninkendo 5y ago
If somebody wrote a plugin that simply moved the menubar (and the maximum top of fullscreen apps) $height_of_notch pixels lower and drew nothing but black above it, would you be happy? Because that would give you parity with existing macbooks.
- jwitthuhn 5y ago
  I would be incredibly happy with this but I'm not sure it is possible. I certainly hope so!
  - manmal 5y ago
    I read that hiding the notch with a black bar is actually a built-in feature they just briefly brushed on in the keynote.
    - emoII 5y ago
      Didn't they just say that it looked "really good in dark mode"?
      - manmal 5y ago
        I rewatched it and have to confirm what you wrote, unfortunately. It was just a rumor, sorry.
  - aqme28 5y ago
    I can almost guarantee there's going to be something like this built into the OS.
jmull 5y ago
No problem there. "Full" screen can just start below the notch. (Don't know if they'll do that, but they should.)
- aeharding 5y ago
  Not to mention, with the mini led display, letterboxing will be indistinguishable from the bezel.
- arrozconcosas 5y ago
  Ah, the classic "glass is half full" discussion
- acdha 5y ago
  Looking at the videos, that appears to be exactly what they did. That makes total sense for not breaking existing apps but now I'm curious whether developers can opt-in to use the space around the notch in full screen mode.
  - dtjb 5y ago
    Yes - https://www.apple.com/v/macbook-pro/ac/images/overview/hero_14_16__bux8byft94oi_large.jpg https://www.apple.com/v/macbook-pro/ac/images/overview/hero_...
- acdha 5y ago
  If you’re curious, this just posted: the result full screen mode renders below the notch (which is still more pixels than the previous models) and developers can customize it to render in the rectangles they call auxiliary spaces. https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guidelines/macos/app-architecture/fullscreen-mode/ https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guideline...

It's not useless, remember that full-screen is thing?

by sekai 5y ago

It's not useless, remember that full-screen is thing?

Hamuko 5y ago

Now you get the same amount of window space without losing the menu bar.

ericsoderstrom 5y ago

Think you misunderstood the parent comment. Full screen doesn't somehow add pixels into a bezel

cassianoleal 5y ago

Full screen doesn't extend to the sides of the camera on current laptops. All that's there is the bezel.

ninkendo 5y ago

If somebody wrote a plugin that simply moved the menubar (and the maximum top of fullscreen apps) $height_of_notch pixels lower and drew nothing but black above it, would you be happy? Because that would give you parity with existing macbooks.

jwitthuhn 5y ago
I would be incredibly happy with this but I'm not sure it is possible. I certainly hope so!
- manmal 5y ago
  I read that hiding the notch with a black bar is actually a built-in feature they just briefly brushed on in the keynote.
  - emoII 5y ago
    Didn't they just say that it looked "really good in dark mode"?
    - manmal 5y ago
      I rewatched it and have to confirm what you wrote, unfortunately. It was just a rumor, sorry.
- aqme28 5y ago
  I can almost guarantee there's going to be something like this built into the OS.

jmull 5y ago

No problem there. "Full" screen can just start below the notch. (Don't know if they'll do that, but they should.)

aeharding 5y ago
Not to mention, with the mini led display, letterboxing will be indistinguishable from the bezel.
arrozconcosas 5y ago
Ah, the classic "glass is half full" discussion
acdha 5y ago
Looking at the videos, that appears to be exactly what they did. That makes total sense for not breaking existing apps but now I'm curious whether developers can opt-in to use the space around the notch in full screen mode.
- dtjb 5y ago
  Yes - https://www.apple.com/v/macbook-pro/ac/images/overview/hero_14_16__bux8byft94oi_large.jpg https://www.apple.com/v/macbook-pro/ac/images/overview/hero_...
acdha 5y ago
If you’re curious, this just posted: the result full screen mode renders below the notch (which is still more pixels than the previous models) and developers can customize it to render in the rectangles they call auxiliary spaces. https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guidelines/macos/app-architecture/fullscreen-mode/ https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guideline...