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In this context the absence of the 27 inch iMac was interesting. If these SoC were not deemed to be 'right' for the bigger iMac then possibly a more CPU focused

In this context the absence of the 27 inch iMac was interesting. If these SoC were not deemed to be 'right' for the bigger iMac then possibly a more CPU focused / developer focused SoC may be in the works for the iMac?

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wmf 5y ago
Nah, it'll be the same M1 Max. Just wait a few months like with the 24" iMac.
- klelatti 5y ago
  You're probably right. Maybe they have inventory to work through!
  - sroussey 5y ago
    Yeah, M1 Pro/Max on iMac 30” likely in 2022 H1. Mini also, I imagine.
    - matthew_kuiash 5y ago
      Yup. Once I saw the 24" iMac I knew the 27" had had it's chips. 30" won't actually be much bigger than the 27" if the bezels shrink to almost nothing - which seems to be the trend.
    - meerita 5y ago
      I wish 34" iMac Pro M1 Max.
  - nicoburns 5y ago
    They might also have supply constraints on these new chips. I suspect they are going to sell a lot of these new MacBook Pros
  - iSnow 5y ago
    They also have a limited headcount and resources so they wouldn't want to announce M1x/pro/max for all machines now and have employees be idle for the next 3 months. Notebooks also have a higher profit margin, so they sell them to those who need to upgrade now. The lower-margin systems like Mini will come later. And the Mac Pro will either die or come with the next iteration of the chips.
    - ellisv 5y ago
      The Mac Pro might be blocked, or still progressing, through design changes more so than chip changes.
julienb_sea 5y ago
I doubt they are going to make different chips for prosumer devices. They are going to spread out the M1 pro/max upgrade to the rest of the lineup at some point during the next year, so they can claim "full transition" through their quoted 2 years. The wildcard is the actual mac pro. I suspect we aren't going to hear about mac pro until next Sept/Oct events, and super unclear what direction they are going to go. Maybe allowing config of multiple M1 max SOCs somehow working together. Seems complicated.
- klelatti 5y ago
  On reflection I think they've decided that their pro users want 'more GPU not more CPU' - they could easily have added a couple more CPU cores but it obviously wasn't a priority. Agreed that it's hard to see how designing a CPU just for the Mac Pro would make any kind of economic sense but equally struggling to see what else they can do!
  - arvinsim 5y ago
    There is only so much you can do improving the CPU. On the other hand, we still haven't really reached the limit for GPUs.
    - klelatti 5y ago
      I suppose it’s the software - most CPU software is primarily designed to run on a single / few cores. GPU code is massively parallel by design.
- meerita 5y ago
  I think we will see iMac Pro with incredible performance. Mac Pros, maybe in the next years to come. It's a really high end product to release new specs. Plus, in they release it with M1 Max chips, what would be the difference? a nicer case and more upgrading slot? I don't see the advantage of power. I think Mac Pros will be upgraded like in 2 years ahead
- madeofpalk 5y ago

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wmf 5y ago

Nah, it'll be the same M1 Max. Just wait a few months like with the 24" iMac.

klelatti 5y ago
You're probably right. Maybe they have inventory to work through!
- sroussey 5y ago
  Yeah, M1 Pro/Max on iMac 30” likely in 2022 H1. Mini also, I imagine.
  - matthew_kuiash 5y ago
    Yup. Once I saw the 24" iMac I knew the 27" had had it's chips. 30" won't actually be much bigger than the 27" if the bezels shrink to almost nothing - which seems to be the trend.
  - meerita 5y ago
    I wish 34" iMac Pro M1 Max.
- nicoburns 5y ago
  They might also have supply constraints on these new chips. I suspect they are going to sell a lot of these new MacBook Pros
- iSnow 5y ago
  They also have a limited headcount and resources so they wouldn't want to announce M1x/pro/max for all machines now and have employees be idle for the next 3 months. Notebooks also have a higher profit margin, so they sell them to those who need to upgrade now. The lower-margin systems like Mini will come later. And the Mac Pro will either die or come with the next iteration of the chips.
  - ellisv 5y ago
    The Mac Pro might be blocked, or still progressing, through design changes more so than chip changes.

julienb_sea 5y ago

I doubt they are going to make different chips for prosumer devices. They are going to spread out the M1 pro/max upgrade to the rest of the lineup at some point during the next year, so they can claim "full transition" through their quoted 2 years. The wildcard is the actual mac pro. I suspect we aren't going to hear about mac pro until next Sept/Oct events, and super unclear what direction they are going to go. Maybe allowing config of multiple M1 max SOCs somehow working together. Seems complicated.

klelatti 5y ago
On reflection I think they've decided that their pro users want 'more GPU not more CPU' - they could easily have added a couple more CPU cores but it obviously wasn't a priority. Agreed that it's hard to see how designing a CPU just for the Mac Pro would make any kind of economic sense but equally struggling to see what else they can do!
- arvinsim 5y ago
  There is only so much you can do improving the CPU. On the other hand, we still haven't really reached the limit for GPUs.
  - klelatti 5y ago
    I suppose it’s the software - most CPU software is primarily designed to run on a single / few cores. GPU code is massively parallel by design.
meerita 5y ago
I think we will see iMac Pro with incredible performance. Mac Pros, maybe in the next years to come. It's a really high end product to release new specs. Plus, in they release it with M1 Max chips, what would be the difference? a nicer case and more upgrading slot? I don't see the advantage of power. I think Mac Pros will be upgraded like in 2 years ahead
madeofpalk 5y ago