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Epic update. Crazy fast chips, 120hz, mini LED, more ports, 64 gigs of ram. It's literally everything you could want in a new MacBook Pro.
by valine 5y ago
Epic update. Crazy fast chips, 120hz, mini LED, more ports, 64 gigs of ram. It's literally everything you could want in a new MacBook Pro.
- can16358p 5y agoYup. This was more than many of us demanded TBH.
- rstupek 5y agoAnd they got rid of the touch bar which everyone dumped heavily on
- yellow_postit 5y agoIf you listen closely you can hear the IT procurement IOs being opened up en masse.
- awill 5y agoI love how they boasted about bringing back the regular keyboard. Even though they're solving a problem them created.
- rstupek 5y agoDamned if they do, damned if they don't? Sounds to me like they listened and changed course.
- thuccess129 5y agoStill have not solved the tinytiny inverted Tee arrow keys arrangement. Need to improve on the former IBM's 6-key cluster below the right shift key, or arrange full keysized arrows in a cross pattern breaking out of the rectangle at the lower right corner.
- airstrike 5y agoI think the parent comment is taking issue with how they frame it, not with the actual decision
- pb7 5y agoWhat are they supposed to say? "We're sorry we tried something new and it didn't work out?"
- markdog12 5y agoYes?
- airstrike 5y ago"We listened to you and brought back the functions keys–and made them full size!" That's just my half-assed stab at it. Presumably someone whose job is to write these things for a living can improve it meaningfully while maintaining the essence.
- pb7 5y agoThey said pretty much this minus the "we listened to you" part. I don't know why you need a pat on the back. Are you going to send them a thank you card for every thing they do right? It's a company dude, Apple is not your buddy. They're not listening to you, they're listening to market research and usage analytics.
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- kelnos 5y agoYes, but instead of acting like bringing back the regular keyboard is an amazing achievement, they could instead just admit that the touch bar wasn't a good idea. But admitting errors is not the Apple Way.
- RandallBrown 5y agoThey were "boasting" about making the function keys taller.
- reaperducer 5y agoWhich makes sense because some of the earlier MacBook keyboards with physical keys, like the one I'm using right now, had half-height keys.
- sxg 5y agoHow are they supposed to frame it? “Sorry we messed up the keyboard. We’re putting a regular one back in.” Doesn’t seem like great phrasing for launching a new product.
- Grustaf 5y agoThey didn't boast. Saying many people prefer hardware keys is closer to admitting a mistake than boasting.
- throwoutway 5y agoLooks like they only “got rid” of the Touch Bar for the more expensive model. Really trolling their customers now
- 1270018080 5y agoNo they didn't? The 14 and 16 inch don't have the touchbar.
- out_of_protocol 5y agoExactly. No touch bar and cost more money
- cassianoleal 5y agoThe Air doesn't have a touch bar and costs less money. It's also a perfectly good -- no, sorry: an excellent laptop for most applications, including development. I suspect the 13" M1 Pro was probably just something to cater for those who were skeptical about a fanless laptop since no one really knew back then how well these machines would perform. Now that the M1s have been out for a while and no one seems to be complaining about the Air, they can drop the M1 Pro.
- Toutouxc 5y agoWell, the 13" Pro already has the M1 chip and will probably be gradually replaced by the 14", so there's no reason to update it. Where's the trolling?
- kllrnohj 5y agoBut that notch is kind of a really ugly blight on the face of an otherwise good looking update. Especially since it's lacking faceid or something equivalent to windows hello
- cmckn 5y agoI agree that the notch is a bit large to just be a 1080p webcam. I don’t hate it though, aesthetically. If the next iteration doesn’t have Face ID, I’ll be a bit annoyed. Seriously considering trading in my M1 MacBook Air for the 14”. Tim Cook really knows how to drain my accounts!
- ssijak 5y agoit is useful because it will be on the middle of the status bar. After 2 hours my guess nobody would notice anything weird. Like with the iphones, but this one actually makes sense.
- threatofrain 5y agoIt conflicts with existing Apple design decisions, such as Safari in full-screen with the compact tabs, or Apple Calendar in full screen mode. I wonder how that will work.
- airstrike 5y agoI don't think Apple really designed Safari to be ordinarily used in full-screen with compact tabs.
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- alexandrius 5y agoFull Screen apps do not use notch space as seen in their full screen demos
- actusual 5y agoTook away the ports just to bring 'em back and play the hero. Apple playing 5d chess.
- nfriedly 5y agoMaybe next year's refresh will have USB-A ports again!
- gjsman-1000 5y agoApple, according to the rumors, considered even bringing back USB-A but decided against it.
- colinmhayes 5y agoWould USB-A fit in a macbook? No way for the air right?
- elzbardico 5y agoI am happy if USB-A dies.
- lostlogin 5y agoFor me C can die. Having multiple specs on one plug and various cables that all behave differently is ridiculous.
- nfriedly 5y agoI mean, Apple gets to decide how thick the laptop is, so they could make it work if they wanted to. Didn't the original Macbook Air have a USB-A port? Also, HDMI ports are approximately the same height as USB Type-A ports, so presumably it would fit in this design.
- bart_spoon 5y ago> Didn't the original Macbook Air have a USB-A port? It did
- _the_inflator 5y agoWhat a beast! I already feel sorry for my MacBook Pro 13 with M1. Left in the dust essentially.
- other_herbert 5y agosame for my m1 air! :D... but then I remembered that apple does trade ins! :D
- vishnugupta 5y agoI guess M1 Air is targeted towards execs, business crowd, marketers and such who's primary day job is not into creating, not something that'd require Pro level capabilities anyway.
- tornato7 5y agoThe M1 Air is the best laptop for the average casual laptop user (school, emails, photos, etc). The battery life alone makes it a huge upgrade over any Windows machine. I also love that it doesn't have any fans, side that's usually the first thing to go on any laptop. I expect to get years and years of good use out of the Air.
- Aperocky 5y agoOr programmer. We don't need that much juice really. If our stuff makes M1 runs slow ... It's probably poorly optimized code. Of course game dev is exempt from this.
- raihansaputra 5y agoI already have an M1 Air, and I'm looking to buy the 14 MBP just for the display (working outdoors yay), battery life, and RAM (16GB + higher bandwith). There's enough horsepower on the M1 for me, not even noticeable compared to the i7 MBP 16.
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- gjsman-1000 5y agoDid anyone miss the headphone jack now supports low-impedance headphones? No reason they had to do that - just pure icing on the cake.
- Toutouxc 5y agoHigh-impedance headphones. Driving low-impedance headphones is easy.
- worrycue 5y ago> micro LED Mini-LED backlighting. It’s still an IPS panel. MicroLED is something else entirely. Had me excited for a second.
- forsakenharmony 5y agomini LED, not micro LED
- valine 5y agoYup my bad
- simonebrunozzi 5y agoYes, but let's see the price tag for an M1 Max with 64 GB is, and then we can rejoice. Or not.
- indemnity 5y agoSame price as the i9 it replaced, no?
- johncalvinyoung 5y ago5600M SKUs were more expensive than equivalent M1 Max options.
- superfamicom 5y ago$4,298.65 in WA after tax, free shipping.
- dymk 5y agoSounds like it's time to make a trip down to Oregon
- anamexis 5y ago$3899.
- Alex3917 5y ago> It's literally everything you could want in a new MacBook Pro. If it doesn't run VirtualBox then I can't use it to write code, so why does it even matter if it's faster?
- idle_zealot 5y agoYou can run Linux with UTM.
- Alex3917 5y agoCan I keep my existing vagrant / Ansible setup? Or, basically, what would I need to use in order to provision the instances?
- ArchOversight 5y agoYou can keep your ansible. Does vagrant support alternate providers for running VM's? Then yes, you can keep your vagrant too.
- Alex3917 5y agoIt looks like Vagrant doesn't work yet with UTM: https://github.com/hashicorp/vagrant/issues/12518 https://github.com/hashicorp/vagrant/issues/12518 Conceptually I'd love one of these machine, but realistically if I can't develop locally in an Ubuntu VM then I might as well just wait a year or two to buy one until that's possible. I'm not going to use Docker, and realistically I have zero interest in spending multiple weeks rewriting all of my provisioning scripts.
- cassianoleal 5y agoVagrant has a QEMU driver, which is what UTM uses anyway. I can't say it will do what you need the way you want but I suspect it's possible to get there. QEMU can virtualise arm and emulate x86.
- nico_h 5y agoI’m so impressed by the screen but it’s too un-ergonomic for me that I’m sad instead. Would have been so nice if they had released 27” desktop screens to connect with these finally wonderful laptops. It’s not like a huge majority of office workers have been staying at home or working from the office for the last year and half or something. The coffee shop surfing, working in the plane / train must have taken a dive.
- wlll 5y agoJust buy a non-apple screen? I run 3 Samsung 4K screens on my MBP.
- NexRebular 5y agoYet there still is no support for writing HFS (not plus) formatted floppies. Yeah, not really everything I could want...
- fomine3 5y agoI wish they offer non mini-LED display option since developer don't need such quality. Apple need to break down "Pro".
- ptmcc 5y agoAu contraire, as a developer staring at screens all day I think it's very important to invest in high quality displays
- fomine3 5y agoGenerally agree to invest to avoid eye stain, but this is overkill.
- fastball 5y agoHow can you generally agree but then say this display is overkill? The previous displays were definitely not the peak of quality to avoid eye strain.
- fomine3 5y agoTo reduce eye strain, reducing glare is important so using non-reflective screen by sacrificing quality is better (or ideally eInk). XDR displays (and previous displays from Apple) are great for quality, but not fully optimized for reducing eye strain. https://www.eizo.com/library/basics/10_ways_to_address_eye_fatigue/ https://www.eizo.com/library/basics/10_ways_to_address_eye_f...
- lwouis 5y agoI would argue dynamic backlit screens are terrible for development actually. High contrast is intense on the eye. I bought a QLED TV 3 years ago, and tried to use it as an external display for my laptop. It's painful to look at. You switch from a white window to a black one and the TV adjusts backlight dynamically and blasts your eyes. I would react by putting my hand in front on my eyes like if i had looked outside from inside a cave after getting used to the cave. Something like e-ink would be best for office work indeed. Lighting is external so controlled by the user and in line with the rest of the room