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The greatest improvement: no Touch Bar.

by hmate9 5y ago

can16358p 5y ago
TBH I'd love to have Touch Bar but improved with haptic feedback, making it much more useful. It helped me a lot while debugging and loved the customization it offered for the "static" keys on the right, but having no haptic feedback always caused me to miss the button unless I stared at it, killing the purpose greatly.
- epistasis 5y ago
  Haptic feedback, and also elimination of the lag. It often takes >100ms for the bar to respond, which makes a quick adjustment to the sound slider impossible.
  - azundo 5y ago
    The lag truly makes it unusable. Trying to mute? Hit the mute button. Did it register and is just laggy? Or just missed the tap altogether? Why have an always-on touchbar that doesn't even respond to taps consistently.
    - can16358p 5y ago
      Yup, agreed. Those were solvable problems though, and really easy ones. The bar itself would have benefited from ProMotion for example: be super responsive while touching/dragging sliders, and stay at 10Hz or even less when static. Couple it with haptic feedback and I'm pretty much sure that many would love it. It had great potential but they killed it.
mclightning 5y ago
I love my touchbar.
- rednum 5y ago
  I liked the concept when I first saw it but honestly it's more trouble than it's worth. On my old work laptop, it would sometimes bug out and stop registering touch. That's a problem when you are in the middle of a call and you need to adjust volume because one of the speakers is too loud or too quiet. I also don't like how it's harder to operate than physical buttons. Too many times I hit the wrong spot on the bar and for example ended up putting my laptop to sleep instead of adjusting brightness. I've also tried to configure Ableton Live to do something useful with it (maybe mute/unmute tracks or control their volumes); but with little success. Long story short: I'm happy to see it's gone.
  - throwdecro 5y ago
    I wish they'd offer to remove the touchbar from the laptop I have.
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jonny_eh 5y ago
Second greatest: Restoring popular ports that were previously removed. Such innovation :D
nickpp 5y ago
I think they left in on the 13" MBP? But why?!
- justusthane 5y ago
  Because there isn't a new 13" MBP. 14" and 16" are the new ones with the M1 chip.
- tunesmith 5y ago
  I don't see the touchbar on the 13". (EDIT: Ah, 14")
neillyons 5y ago
The perfect laptop now

The greatest improvement: no Touch Bar.

by hmate9 5y ago

The greatest improvement: no Touch Bar.

TBH I'd love to have Touch Bar but improved with haptic feedback, making it much more useful. It helped me a lot while debugging and loved the customization it offered for the "static" keys on the right, but having no haptic feedback always caused me to miss the button unless I stared at it, killing the purpose greatly.

epistasis 5y ago
Haptic feedback, and also elimination of the lag. It often takes >100ms for the bar to respond, which makes a quick adjustment to the sound slider impossible.
- azundo 5y ago
  The lag truly makes it unusable. Trying to mute? Hit the mute button. Did it register and is just laggy? Or just missed the tap altogether? Why have an always-on touchbar that doesn't even respond to taps consistently.
  - can16358p 5y ago
    Yup, agreed. Those were solvable problems though, and really easy ones. The bar itself would have benefited from ProMotion for example: be super responsive while touching/dragging sliders, and stay at 10Hz or even less when static. Couple it with haptic feedback and I'm pretty much sure that many would love it. It had great potential but they killed it.

mclightning 5y ago

I love my touchbar.

rednum 5y ago
I liked the concept when I first saw it but honestly it's more trouble than it's worth. On my old work laptop, it would sometimes bug out and stop registering touch. That's a problem when you are in the middle of a call and you need to adjust volume because one of the speakers is too loud or too quiet. I also don't like how it's harder to operate than physical buttons. Too many times I hit the wrong spot on the bar and for example ended up putting my laptop to sleep instead of adjusting brightness. I've also tried to configure Ableton Live to do something useful with it (maybe mute/unmute tracks or control their volumes); but with little success. Long story short: I'm happy to see it's gone.
- throwdecro 5y ago
  I wish they'd offer to remove the touchbar from the laptop I have.

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jonny_eh 5y ago

Second greatest: Restoring popular ports that were previously removed. Such innovation :D

nickpp 5y ago

I think they left in on the 13" MBP? But why?!

justusthane 5y ago
Because there isn't a new 13" MBP. 14" and 16" are the new ones with the M1 chip.
tunesmith 5y ago
I don't see the touchbar on the 13". (EDIT: Ah, 14")

neillyons 5y ago

The perfect laptop now