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Top-Center is among the most useless screen real estate. It takes just about the same amount of space as the keyboard language selector a bit to the right, or a
by KarlKemp 5y ago
Top-Center is among the most useless screen real estate. It takes just about the same amount of space as the keyboard language selector a bit to the right, or any one of the menu items to the left. And those two interface never fill up to the point where they need that center spot (or I'd be cleaning out those mostly annoying gadgets top-left).
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- shantara 5y agoThe vertical screen space they might have freed by adding a notch was immediately taken by increasing the top bar height. I don’t see a purpose for such a trade off.
- pelmeni 5y agoYou still end up with more usable space since now the menu bar isn't taking up those pixels.
- moonchrome 5y ago>Top-Center is among the most useless screen real estate. Especially on MacOS. 100% like this design - good camera, smaller bezels, useless space being cut out.
- java-man 5y agoMore smudges on the camera, since this is where the user grabs to open the lid, and the camera seems to be closer to the edge.
- m4rtink 5y agoNot to mention - how do you cover the camera to maintain privacy if its now part of the screen ?
- anyfoo 5y agoI don't understand. Was your camera cover extra wide or why would this be different now?
- m4rtink 5y agoMy Thinpak P1 has a moveable mechanical shutter I can move to physically block the camera lense. I don't see how you could do that reasonably with a notch design. Before that on previous laptop models I used a post-it note or a piece of paper held in place with a clothes pin. With the notch design you can't do that either without blocking parts of the UI!
- runako 5y ago> With the notch design you can't do that either without blocking parts of the UI! I thought I was following until this part. Why couldn't you just put a post-it or whatever over the camera itself? There are no pixels where the camera is (although I would be surprised if this is not something under active research).
- m4rtink 5y agoOh, looking more closely the notch is actually quite wide - yeah, that might be doable to fit a post it over it. Still a lot less maneuvering space for that than on a normal laptop.
- chipotle_coyote 5y agoI'm sure someone will leap in to correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think the LED "camera on" indicator is purely hardware on modern MacBook Pros -- you can't override it in software -- and I doubt that's changed with this one. So I'm not sure how big a deal this would actually be in practice. (I would probably go for a bit of black electrical tape if I were really worried about that, though.)
- serverholic 5y agoThe camera is pretty much in the same place?
- m4rtink 5y agoTop centre is where Gnome Shell on my Fedora install shows time, notification indicator and application notification icons (hexchat, Steam, etc.). Hardly an useless part of the screen!
- serverholic 5y agoBut it doesn't work on my non-standard OS that wasn't designed for the hardware!
- Jtsummers 5y agoMBPs are designed for macOS, if other OSes do other things with the hardware, that's on them. Why should Apple care when probably 99% of their users (if not more) are exclusively using macOS on the hardware with other OSes in VMs?
- anyfoo 5y agoCan you make Gnome Shell do something else, then? Or if you don't want the extra pixels, I'm sure you could arrange it so that your OS does not use them.
- m4rtink 5y agoSure, you can move the clock and indicators, but it's the default place for them. Also not sure about eq. fullscreen applications.