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> I still don't get why lenovo still provides _soldered_ ram at all on the T/P series machines Cynical take: so you buy it, then realize it's soldered, then bu

> I still don't get why lenovo still provides _soldered_ ram at all on the T/P series machines Cynical take: so you buy it, then realize it's soldered, then buy another computer? > But what I really want to know is where the full bios manual is, so that I can see if its possible to enable S3 standby. Some Lenovo laptops that come with Windows have a "Sleep State" option that you can switch from "Windows 10" to "Linux", which I think is what disables Modern Standby? I've seen C3 be enabled by one of the options on a recent Lenovo, I think it was probably that setting.

basilgohar 5y ago
That's why I highlighted this boneheaded move by Lenovo prominently in the article and also blasted them for it.
ChuckNorris89 5y ago
>Cynical take: so you buy it, then realize it's soldered, then buy another computer? Bingo! That's why they're all getting a big middle finger from me, and I'm gonna walk the walk and take my money to Framework as all the others try to push you to their premium-buisness-ripoff lines of machines if you want a laptop with more than 16 gigs of RAM. FFS, just because I need 32 or 64 gigs of RAM doesn't mean I want a $4000 workstation enterprise machine with all the bells and whistles I will never use. Just give me your regular $1000 machine and bill me for the difference to 32/64 gigs.
- mnl 5y ago
  You can look up such details before buying in https://psref.lenovo.com https://psref.lenovo.com. Then usually the hardware maintenance manual is available in support, that's the main reason why I end up getting their laptops, although their obnoxious wireless card whitelists (don't trust "compatible" FRUs BTW) make me always look elsewhere in the first place.
- nix0n 5y ago
  If you don't care about "workstation" branding, or out-of-the-box Linux compatibility, you can get a high-RAM laptop by looking at gaming laptops.
  - basilgohar 5y ago
    This is also true. Gaming laptops tend to have a nice blend of performance features that lend them well to overall performance in may cases, but likely not focusing on super long battery life. It'd be great if there was a marketing push for gaming laptop-like performance without all the gaming embellishments like RGB lighting, "stealth" appearance, etc. I'd love an elegantly designed, high-capacity battery version. The Asus ROG Strix G15 Advantage Edition gets the best of these features, with the one exception of lacking a mux switch to turn off the integrated graphics when using the dedicated graphics for even more performance on the built-in screen. There are several YouTube videos that cover this, amongst the best are Jarrod's Tech.
    - llampx 5y ago
      One good thing about USBC charging is that power banks now exist which can charge laptops.
      - elzbardico 5y ago
        Never had thought about that. Thanks!

basilgohar 5y ago

That's why I highlighted this boneheaded move by Lenovo prominently in the article and also blasted them for it.

ChuckNorris89 5y ago

>Cynical take: so you buy it, then realize it's soldered, then buy another computer? Bingo! That's why they're all getting a big middle finger from me, and I'm gonna walk the walk and take my money to Framework as all the others try to push you to their premium-buisness-ripoff lines of machines if you want a laptop with more than 16 gigs of RAM. FFS, just because I need 32 or 64 gigs of RAM doesn't mean I want a $4000 workstation enterprise machine with all the bells and whistles I will never use. Just give me your regular $1000 machine and bill me for the difference to 32/64 gigs.

mnl 5y ago
You can look up such details before buying in https://psref.lenovo.com https://psref.lenovo.com. Then usually the hardware maintenance manual is available in support, that's the main reason why I end up getting their laptops, although their obnoxious wireless card whitelists (don't trust "compatible" FRUs BTW) make me always look elsewhere in the first place.
nix0n 5y ago
If you don't care about "workstation" branding, or out-of-the-box Linux compatibility, you can get a high-RAM laptop by looking at gaming laptops.
- basilgohar 5y ago
  This is also true. Gaming laptops tend to have a nice blend of performance features that lend them well to overall performance in may cases, but likely not focusing on super long battery life. It'd be great if there was a marketing push for gaming laptop-like performance without all the gaming embellishments like RGB lighting, "stealth" appearance, etc. I'd love an elegantly designed, high-capacity battery version. The Asus ROG Strix G15 Advantage Edition gets the best of these features, with the one exception of lacking a mux switch to turn off the integrated graphics when using the dedicated graphics for even more performance on the built-in screen. There are several YouTube videos that cover this, amongst the best are Jarrod's Tech.
  - llampx 5y ago
    One good thing about USBC charging is that power banks now exist which can charge laptops.
    - elzbardico 5y ago
      Never had thought about that. Thanks!