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I'm surprised at the authors reverence for the Lenovo T14. I purchased one in September of last year and returned it in less than a month! While it was quite p

I'm surprised at the authors reverence for the Lenovo T14. I purchased one in September of last year and returned it in less than a month! While it was quite performant, the screen shipped with it was unusably color inaccuarate. Reviews online stating that it had a color accuracy of just 37% NTSC. In addition to having horrible color accuracy in general usage (tomatoes would look like oranges for instance) using something like "F.Lux" or "Windows Nightlight" would cause this level of color-inaccuracy to appear Windows: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgjqeDF9c50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgjqeDF9c50 Linux: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhLBx4mmPrM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhLBx4mmPrM Microsoft's own demo of the technology shows what it "should" look like on a more proper display https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QCRDn8-qLo#t=1m58s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QCRDn8-qLo#t=1m58s

basilgohar 5y ago
Very glad to hear your insight. I have not purchased one myself yet for lack of a detailed review of most of these. I wouldn't say I "revere" there, rather, I am just glad the options exist as all. I am hopeful for a network effect. Historically, however, the T series of ThinkPads have been excellent. My wife used to have one and many others did as well, and its legacy extended into the Lenovo era. Edit: I was specifically talking about the AMD T14s, specifically, so not sure if that's germane to your issue.
- rincebrain 5y ago
  For quick reference on my AMD T14 with the 500nit display: https://www.dropbox.com/s/knsjnbw6875buwo/PXL_20211018_171940326.mp4?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/knsjnbw6875buwo/PXL_20211018_17194... (I do not have similar complaints about the color accuracy, personally, but I'm not especially sensitive to them.)
  - basilgohar 5y ago
    I will take your word for it, but I think captured video of screens' performance is probably not going to relay what you want to show in the best light (pun slightly intended). As I said elsewhere, I don't doubt the issues folks are having, and I hope more people raise it. It's important they are known and the OEMs address them. The comment has definitely sparked good discussion in the thread so far. I may cover that in future articles, too.
    - rincebrain 5y ago
      Sure, you're going through six degrees of color reproduction, my purpose was primarily to illustrate that I did not see mistaking the color of a tomato for an orange as likely in my case.
thereddaikon 5y ago
The market in which T series ThinkPads are normally sold value screen quality at the bottom. We order them by the truckload it seems and we always opt for the cheapest, crappiest screen they have. Why? because these are business computers that spend all day looking displaying boring business applications. The most interesting thing they do is Zoom meetings. We even get sub 1080p displays because, no shit, they are a waste on many of our users who have less than stellar eyesight. You may wonder why we don't just use the desktop sclaing feature in Windows 10. And thats because more than one of our niche industry specific core applications is completely incompatible with it. And if you try to use it the interface will become horribly mangled with missing text and interface elements that are impossible to click. T series are great business computers but they aren't always the best choice for everyone. The best display they offer is just OK. Not great. But this isn't a given across the line. Lenovo does have models with great screens. Just not the T series.
- nucleardog 5y ago
  I don’t know if it’s the best display they offer, but my T490 has a 1440P HDR IPS panel that suits me fine. I’d consider it more than “just okay”. That said, I agree with your general point because all the other screen options were hot garbage.

basilgohar 5y ago

Very glad to hear your insight. I have not purchased one myself yet for lack of a detailed review of most of these. I wouldn't say I "revere" there, rather, I am just glad the options exist as all. I am hopeful for a network effect. Historically, however, the T series of ThinkPads have been excellent. My wife used to have one and many others did as well, and its legacy extended into the Lenovo era. Edit: I was specifically talking about the AMD T14s, specifically, so not sure if that's germane to your issue.

rincebrain 5y ago
For quick reference on my AMD T14 with the 500nit display: https://www.dropbox.com/s/knsjnbw6875buwo/PXL_20211018_171940326.mp4?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/knsjnbw6875buwo/PXL_20211018_17194... (I do not have similar complaints about the color accuracy, personally, but I'm not especially sensitive to them.)
- basilgohar 5y ago
  I will take your word for it, but I think captured video of screens' performance is probably not going to relay what you want to show in the best light (pun slightly intended). As I said elsewhere, I don't doubt the issues folks are having, and I hope more people raise it. It's important they are known and the OEMs address them. The comment has definitely sparked good discussion in the thread so far. I may cover that in future articles, too.
  - rincebrain 5y ago
    Sure, you're going through six degrees of color reproduction, my purpose was primarily to illustrate that I did not see mistaking the color of a tomato for an orange as likely in my case.

thereddaikon 5y ago

The market in which T series ThinkPads are normally sold value screen quality at the bottom. We order them by the truckload it seems and we always opt for the cheapest, crappiest screen they have. Why? because these are business computers that spend all day looking displaying boring business applications. The most interesting thing they do is Zoom meetings. We even get sub 1080p displays because, no shit, they are a waste on many of our users who have less than stellar eyesight. You may wonder why we don't just use the desktop sclaing feature in Windows 10. And thats because more than one of our niche industry specific core applications is completely incompatible with it. And if you try to use it the interface will become horribly mangled with missing text and interface elements that are impossible to click. T series are great business computers but they aren't always the best choice for everyone. The best display they offer is just OK. Not great. But this isn't a given across the line. Lenovo does have models with great screens. Just not the T series.

nucleardog 5y ago
I don’t know if it’s the best display they offer, but my T490 has a 1440P HDR IPS panel that suits me fine. I’d consider it more than “just okay”. That said, I agree with your general point because all the other screen options were hot garbage.