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Some I find relevant: Euronews[0], Politico Europe[1] and RT[2]. Every news source has a bias, you just have to acknowledge it. [0] https://www.euronews.com ht

Some I find relevant: Euronews[0], Politico Europe[1] and RT[2]. Every news source has a bias, you just have to acknowledge it. [0] https://www.euronews.com https://www.euronews.com [1] https://www.politico.eu https://www.politico.eu [2] https://www.rt.com https://www.rt.com

NoNameProvided 5y ago
I had the impression that RT is a propaganda tool[1] for the Russian government not an independent news organization. [1]: https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-propaganda-disinformation-rt/ https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-propaganda-disinforma...
- datenarsch 5y ago
  > I had the impression that RT is a propaganda tool[1] for the Russian government not an independent news organization. Surely then you will likewise acknowledge that Euronews is a propaganda tool for the European Union not an independent news organization.
  - bigodbiel 5y ago
    Euro News is more complicated, it’s partially owned by EU member states but also non members like Russian and Egyptian State TV.
denton-scratch 5y ago
> Every news source has a bias, you just have to acknowledge it. I'd go further, and say that all corporate news is literally propaganda. It's not done by lying; it's a question of what you include and what you omit, and how you juxtapose unrelated stories. So I read the Guardian online, and I watch BBC main evening news, but I can't help questioning everything I see or read to work out what the angle is. It feels a bit like I imagine OCD must feel. El Reg is good for a lighthearted approach to tech news. You can't get fair coverage of the Middle East from the mainstream, AFAICS. Jonathan Cook is good. On Scottish politics, Craig Murray was superb, until they locked him up. I'm a leftie, but for British politics I like Peter Oborne and Peter Hitchens from the Daily Mail, a right-wing red-top. I like Media Lens. They've not been publishing a lot lately, and their aim is unwavering: their entire purpose is exposing bias and propaganda in the british media, especially the BBC and The Guardian. So it can seem rather repetitive. But their articles are effectively closely-argued critiques of the mainstream coverage of important events, so it forms a kind of press-review. They write long-form, thoughtful articles. I voted-up the question, because to tell the truth, I would also like to know where I can read daily general reporting, in English, that doesn't have a hidden agenda. I'm consuming less and less news recently. It makes me bilious.
NicoJuicy 5y ago
RT - Russia Today is not a credible news source. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)
- t-3 5y ago
  RT may be a propaganda outlet, but so is pretty much everything else bigger than Joe Rando's blog. Better to use those that you know and can correct for the bias of than being led by those with unknown motivations who keep their backers hidden. Can you honestly hold RT as "worse" than outlets like the New York Times that also uncritically function as establishment mouthpieces?
  - NicoJuicy 5y ago
    Yes, way worse. Nice attempt to spin the question. Sounds familiar at RT
  - cm2012 5y ago
    It's not even the same ballpark
- datenarsch 5y ago
  It's just as credible as any of the mainstream US networks like CNN, MSNBC et al.
- reducesuffering 5y ago
  Other commenters here want to downplay RT's egregious propaganda, comparing it to the equivalent of other sources. But while I think many mainstream sources: NYT, WSJ, Al Jazeera, BBC, etc. have slants and glaring issues, all pale in comparison to the extreme level of RT. Just yesterday they had an article from a Charlottesburg "Unite the Right" speaker lamenting why couldn't Americans overthrow their government like the Afghans did[0]. Journalists in Russia that don't unequivocally tout the Russian government narrative run the risk of jail or death.[1] Every single article has blatant unidirectional spin: "US bad, Russia good." None are on this level. Any sort of trying to obtain pieces of valuable info from it are infected. [0]https://www.rt.com/op-ed/537723-americans-control-afghanistan-covid/ https://www.rt.com/op-ed/537723-americans-control-afghanista... [1]https://rsf.org/en/russia https://rsf.org/en/russia
throwawaymanbot 5y ago
RT????? Really dude???

NoNameProvided 5y ago

I had the impression that RT is a propaganda tool[1] for the Russian government not an independent news organization. [1]: https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-propaganda-disinformation-rt/ https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-propaganda-disinforma...

datenarsch 5y ago
> I had the impression that RT is a propaganda tool[1] for the Russian government not an independent news organization. Surely then you will likewise acknowledge that Euronews is a propaganda tool for the European Union not an independent news organization.
- bigodbiel 5y ago
  Euro News is more complicated, it’s partially owned by EU member states but also non members like Russian and Egyptian State TV.

denton-scratch 5y ago

> Every news source has a bias, you just have to acknowledge it. I'd go further, and say that all corporate news is literally propaganda. It's not done by lying; it's a question of what you include and what you omit, and how you juxtapose unrelated stories. So I read the Guardian online, and I watch BBC main evening news, but I can't help questioning everything I see or read to work out what the angle is. It feels a bit like I imagine OCD must feel. El Reg is good for a lighthearted approach to tech news. You can't get fair coverage of the Middle East from the mainstream, AFAICS. Jonathan Cook is good. On Scottish politics, Craig Murray was superb, until they locked him up. I'm a leftie, but for British politics I like Peter Oborne and Peter Hitchens from the Daily Mail, a right-wing red-top. I like Media Lens. They've not been publishing a lot lately, and their aim is unwavering: their entire purpose is exposing bias and propaganda in the british media, especially the BBC and The Guardian. So it can seem rather repetitive. But their articles are effectively closely-argued critiques of the mainstream coverage of important events, so it forms a kind of press-review. They write long-form, thoughtful articles. I voted-up the question, because to tell the truth, I would also like to know where I can read daily general reporting, in English, that doesn't have a hidden agenda. I'm consuming less and less news recently. It makes me bilious.

NicoJuicy 5y ago

RT - Russia Today is not a credible news source. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)

t-3 5y ago
RT may be a propaganda outlet, but so is pretty much everything else bigger than Joe Rando's blog. Better to use those that you know and can correct for the bias of than being led by those with unknown motivations who keep their backers hidden. Can you honestly hold RT as "worse" than outlets like the New York Times that also uncritically function as establishment mouthpieces?
- NicoJuicy 5y ago
  Yes, way worse. Nice attempt to spin the question. Sounds familiar at RT
- cm2012 5y ago
  It's not even the same ballpark
datenarsch 5y ago
It's just as credible as any of the mainstream US networks like CNN, MSNBC et al.
reducesuffering 5y ago
Other commenters here want to downplay RT's egregious propaganda, comparing it to the equivalent of other sources. But while I think many mainstream sources: NYT, WSJ, Al Jazeera, BBC, etc. have slants and glaring issues, all pale in comparison to the extreme level of RT. Just yesterday they had an article from a Charlottesburg "Unite the Right" speaker lamenting why couldn't Americans overthrow their government like the Afghans did[0]. Journalists in Russia that don't unequivocally tout the Russian government narrative run the risk of jail or death.[1] Every single article has blatant unidirectional spin: "US bad, Russia good." None are on this level. Any sort of trying to obtain pieces of valuable info from it are infected. [0]https://www.rt.com/op-ed/537723-americans-control-afghanistan-covid/ https://www.rt.com/op-ed/537723-americans-control-afghanista... [1]https://rsf.org/en/russia https://rsf.org/en/russia

throwawaymanbot 5y ago

RT????? Really dude???