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What's wrong with Electron? Etcher is a tool with 5 minutes maximum running time, it's not Slack where you have to run on background for hours. Also size is irr

What's wrong with Electron? Etcher is a tool with 5 minutes maximum running time, it's not Slack where you have to run on background for hours. Also size is irrelevant these days, you can download a 150 mb file in 2 seconds.

tentacleuno 5y ago
> Also size is irrelevant these days, you can download a 150 mb file in 2 seconds. Where I live the average internet speed is around 30Mbps (even going as low as 15/10 in some cases) so that definitely isn't true, sadly.
trillic 5y ago
Maybe you and I have near gigabit connections, but not everybody has constant access to high-speed non-metered internet
KMnO4 5y ago
> Also size is irrelevant these days, you can download a 150 mb file in 2 seconds. Definitely not the case for the majority of the world. Sure, it’s probably true for most HN readers, but many countries still rely on 3G infrastructure — or worse: satellite. I remember spending over a week downloading Ubuntu 18, which also consumed ~10% of my monthly data cap for that single ISO. And before you make any assumptions, this was rural Ontario, Canada in 2019.
- WA9ACE 5y ago
  Yes, it's incredibly frustrating to hear people assume everyone has high speed home connections. I operate entirely off cellular. 150 MB is not chump change and it certainly does not download in 2 seconds. If it's not a problem that affects the developer shipping the software it's not a problem that gets noticed or cared about, unless it ends up on a PM's radar or sentry.
  - fouric 5y ago
    Every time you hear someone making false assumptions about internet connections, don't forget to mention Dan Luu's excellent page on this! https://danluu.com/web-bloat/ https://danluu.com/web-bloat/
    - WA9ACE 5y ago
      Thank you for linking me to this this, it's a wonderful write up that I had not seen before!
fouric 5y ago
> size is irrelevant these days Objectively false - this matters for people with limited cellular data, in countries like Africa, on crowded wifi/cellular/satellite connections, with limited storage, and many other cases[1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28907045 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28907045

tentacleuno 5y ago

> Also size is irrelevant these days, you can download a 150 mb file in 2 seconds. Where I live the average internet speed is around 30Mbps (even going as low as 15/10 in some cases) so that definitely isn't true, sadly.

trillic 5y ago

Maybe you and I have near gigabit connections, but not everybody has constant access to high-speed non-metered internet

KMnO4 5y ago

> Also size is irrelevant these days, you can download a 150 mb file in 2 seconds. Definitely not the case for the majority of the world. Sure, it’s probably true for most HN readers, but many countries still rely on 3G infrastructure — or worse: satellite. I remember spending over a week downloading Ubuntu 18, which also consumed ~10% of my monthly data cap for that single ISO. And before you make any assumptions, this was rural Ontario, Canada in 2019.

WA9ACE 5y ago
Yes, it's incredibly frustrating to hear people assume everyone has high speed home connections. I operate entirely off cellular. 150 MB is not chump change and it certainly does not download in 2 seconds. If it's not a problem that affects the developer shipping the software it's not a problem that gets noticed or cared about, unless it ends up on a PM's radar or sentry.
- fouric 5y ago
  Every time you hear someone making false assumptions about internet connections, don't forget to mention Dan Luu's excellent page on this! https://danluu.com/web-bloat/ https://danluu.com/web-bloat/
  - WA9ACE 5y ago
    Thank you for linking me to this this, it's a wonderful write up that I had not seen before!

fouric 5y ago

> size is irrelevant these days Objectively false - this matters for people with limited cellular data, in countries like Africa, on crowded wifi/cellular/satellite connections, with limited storage, and many other cases[1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28907045 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28907045