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What countries would be less friendly in your experience?

izietto 5y ago
Let me clarify that I'm not talking about countries and people, I'm talking about language. For example, English language puts "please" every time you are telling someone to do something, in my language (Italian here), you don't do that. If you are not a good English speaker (like me), you suddenly become someone who gives commands to other people in a rude way.
- a1369209993 5y ago
  > English language puts "please" every time you are telling someone to do something As a native English speaker: no it doesn't. Whoever told you that was gaslighting you, a corporate-politically-correct shitheel, or both. (Or being sarcastic, or cargo-culting something they picked from one of the previous categories, or some other breakdown of communication.)
- silicon2401 5y ago
  > People coming from Western countries tend to be more demanding about discussion friendliness sometimes > People I'm a bit confused, are you talking about people and countries or not? In your original comment you explicitly said "people" and "countries"
  - bee_rider 5y ago
    They are talking about the way people from these countries typically phrase things as a result of their native language, rather than trying to characterize the actual personalities of the people from these countries. We just add more friendly sounding little filler phrases in our speech and often phrase instructions/commands as requests in English. This doesn't make us fundamentally nicer or more reasonable, it is just a social convention.
    - izietto 5y ago
      Thank you for explaining that at my place :) I wasn't even referring to "Western" countries, I mean I come from Italy, which actually is a Western country, and when I read native English speakers I notice many differences that I'll never be able to reproduce
      - silicon2401 5y ago
        I'm just curious; why did you specifically say western countries, if you didn't mean western countries? Or say people if you didn't mean people?
        izietto 5y ago
        Because I'm not a good English speaker, I'm sorry about that
        silicon2401 5y ago
        You're a great English speaker, which is why it was just confusing since you're clearly able to articulate when you _don't_ mean people and countries.
        izietto 5y ago
        Well, I appreciate that I can write decently :D but it requires me a lot of effort, my English skills are a source of big troubles at interviews with other countries. Sometimes I just get confused translating and I say something for something else
        silicon2401 5y ago
        In fairness to your point, I guess I technically can't comment on your speaking, but your writing is definitely great. I wouldn't have guessed you're not a native speaker. Do you practice speech often? I'm a language learning fan but not a huge fan of talking in any language, so my speech always lags behind my writing in languages I study.
HolidayguyNOR 5y ago
I'm not GP, but many Asian cultures apparently have a much more blunt culture than many "western" countries.

Let me clarify that I'm not talking about countries and people, I'm talking about language. For example, English language puts "please" every time you are telling someone to do something, in my language (Italian here), you don't do that. If you are not a good English speaker (like me), you suddenly become someone who gives commands to other people in a rude way.

a1369209993 5y ago
> English language puts "please" every time you are telling someone to do something As a native English speaker: no it doesn't. Whoever told you that was gaslighting you, a corporate-politically-correct shitheel, or both. (Or being sarcastic, or cargo-culting something they picked from one of the previous categories, or some other breakdown of communication.)
silicon2401 5y ago
> People coming from Western countries tend to be more demanding about discussion friendliness sometimes > People I'm a bit confused, are you talking about people and countries or not? In your original comment you explicitly said "people" and "countries"
- bee_rider 5y ago
  They are talking about the way people from these countries typically phrase things as a result of their native language, rather than trying to characterize the actual personalities of the people from these countries. We just add more friendly sounding little filler phrases in our speech and often phrase instructions/commands as requests in English. This doesn't make us fundamentally nicer or more reasonable, it is just a social convention.
  - izietto 5y ago
    Thank you for explaining that at my place :) I wasn't even referring to "Western" countries, I mean I come from Italy, which actually is a Western country, and when I read native English speakers I notice many differences that I'll never be able to reproduce
    - silicon2401 5y ago
      I'm just curious; why did you specifically say western countries, if you didn't mean western countries? Or say people if you didn't mean people?
      - izietto 5y ago
        Because I'm not a good English speaker, I'm sorry about that
        silicon2401 5y ago
        You're a great English speaker, which is why it was just confusing since you're clearly able to articulate when you _don't_ mean people and countries.
        izietto 5y ago
        Well, I appreciate that I can write decently :D but it requires me a lot of effort, my English skills are a source of big troubles at interviews with other countries. Sometimes I just get confused translating and I say something for something else
        silicon2401 5y ago
        In fairness to your point, I guess I technically can't comment on your speaking, but your writing is definitely great. I wouldn't have guessed you're not a native speaker. Do you practice speech often? I'm a language learning fan but not a huge fan of talking in any language, so my speech always lags behind my writing in languages I study.

HolidayguyNOR 5y ago

I'm not GP, but many Asian cultures apparently have a much more blunt culture than many "western" countries.