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When you say 'subjective attacks', do you include threats to rape, maim and murder? Because that's what this person faces. I don't think that the right respons
by colinb 5y ago
When you say 'subjective attacks', do you include threats to rape, maim and murder? Because that's what this person faces.
I don't think that the right response to someone who has faced a threat to themselves or their families is to tell them to toughen up, or to hide. Neither of those would be accepted in the material world.
N.B. this doesn't mean I'm automatically in favor of removing anonymity on the 'net. I'm really not sure what I believe about that yet. But if I understand what you're saying correctly, then I disagree strongly.
- blueflow 5y agoThreats are speech and not the real thing they refer to. Ignoring them is the way to go. Why do people insist on taking other people (and social media) so seriously?
- Ginden 5y agoAcquaintance of mine was attacked by neo-nazis on street due to his online activity. Threats should be taken real, because some of them will result in physical violence.
- freen 5y agoTalk to anyone who was in the punk scene in the 80’s. Nazis kill people.
- ziml77 5y agoBecause there are people who do follow up on threats. It's the same reason why when someone calls in a bomb threat, the police evacuate everyone and bring in the bomb squad.
- salawat 5y agoThis is also why people phone in bomb threats. They know they can get a response and flex power in real and perceptible ways. That test today? Nope. Same with trolling and online activity. This is also why there was generally the rule of don't chuck your personal info out there period.
- mlang23 5y agoWe're talking about a woman, not "a person". Thats important in this context. A woman with a very public job that cant stand the backlash which comes with her job description. Of course, the whole world has to change now, because she cant be bothered to toughen up.
- qwerty456127 5y agoOutside prisons, men rarely receive rape threats though. I would feel uncomfortable if I received such.
- z3c0 5y agoTrying to pitch empathy to somebody who just referred to "person" and "woman" as exclusive concepts may be a waste of your time. You seem like a much better person than they do, at least.
- mlang23 5y agoThere is a difference between refusing to fall for manipulative writing and lack of empathy. Since we're already on such a personal level, I advice you to concentrate on your Torrent download and Crypto hobbies, instead of lecturing others about empathy.
- z3c0 5y agoOooh, looks like I touched a nerve. Nobody is lecturing you. Go back to reddit, where your half-assed unempathtic (and misogynist) contrarionism will belong.
- qwerty456127 5y agoUp-voted both. Fight! :-)
- qwerty456127 5y agoI have always been a passionate free cyberspace and anonymity supporter but those were the days when the Internet was predominantly inhabited by reasonably grown-up, intelligent and educated people. Many of such people preferred to be nice and friendly but many used to enjoy fun of rude language and humor, yet that was Ok as nobody could reasonably suspect they take that seriously and actually hate anybody (let alone are going to go do anything bad offline) when saying something impolite. Now as everyone is online, including all kind of people with mediocre IQ and EQ from underage children to religious extremists and the Internet is also full of bots and agents of propaganda I feel like the most popular places like Facebook (which have became more influential than TV, let alone newspapers) really should be watched and moderated thoroughly. I still feel like private and semi-private places where reasonably low numbers of likely-minded people hang out and speak freely like they would in their own kitchen (rather than when visiting a kindergarten accompanied by a probation officer) should be allowed to exist though.