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I see a discussion but it's not too harsh to me. Do you come from a Western country? People coming from Western countries tend to be more demanding about discus
by izietto 5y ago
I see a discussion but it's not too harsh to me. Do you come from a Western country? People coming from Western countries tend to be more demanding about discussion friendliness sometimes for my experience
- circularfoyers 5y agoContrary to both your comment and the parent's, one of the project's developers (not sure they are the main developer, but one of them) admitted in the referenced pull request that they were too harsh in their response to the contribution: > Now I am rereading my first comment an see that it is too rude. I am sorry for that. I was in a bad mood when wrote this.
- izietto 5y agoYep and he apologized as you noticed, so I can't see anything too frightening to me.
- silicon2401 5y agoWhat countries would be less friendly in your experience?
- izietto 5y agoLet me clarify that I'm not talking about countries and people, I'm talking about language. For example, English language puts "please" every time you are telling someone to do something, in my language (Italian here), you don't do that. If you are not a good English speaker (like me), you suddenly become someone who gives commands to other people in a rude way.
- a1369209993 5y ago> English language puts "please" every time you are telling someone to do something As a native English speaker: no it doesn't. Whoever told you that was gaslighting you, a corporate-politically-correct shitheel, or both. (Or being sarcastic, or cargo-culting something they picked from one of the previous categories, or some other breakdown of communication.)
- silicon2401 5y ago> People coming from Western countries tend to be more demanding about discussion friendliness sometimes > People I'm a bit confused, are you talking about people and countries or not? In your original comment you explicitly said "people" and "countries"
- bee_rider 5y agoThey are talking about the way people from these countries typically phrase things as a result of their native language, rather than trying to characterize the actual personalities of the people from these countries. We just add more friendly sounding little filler phrases in our speech and often phrase instructions/commands as requests in English. This doesn't make us fundamentally nicer or more reasonable, it is just a social convention.
- izietto 5y agoThank you for explaining that at my place :) I wasn't even referring to "Western" countries, I mean I come from Italy, which actually is a Western country, and when I read native English speakers I notice many differences that I'll never be able to reproduce
- silicon2401 5y agoI'm just curious; why did you specifically say western countries, if you didn't mean western countries? Or say people if you didn't mean people?
- izietto 5y agoBecause I'm not a good English speaker, I'm sorry about that
- silicon2401 5y agoYou're a great English speaker, which is why it was just confusing since you're clearly able to articulate when you _don't_ mean people and countries.
- HolidayguyNOR 5y agoI'm not GP, but many Asian cultures apparently have a much more blunt culture than many "western" countries.
- HolidayguyNOR 5y agoI agree. There are also huge individual differences. I have a military background and we generally don't "gift wrap" our feedback. "This bad because X" is constructive, helpful and to the point, and it doesn't mean that the person receiving the feedback is incompetent. Some people seem to take it that way. Accepting failure is integral to learning and growth, but a key part of that is identifying the weak points and learning from them. Edit: s/gift wrap/sugar coat