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What evidence do you having for cheating being only way to remain competitive? What exactly do you mean by cheating?

factorialboy 5y ago
If I don't pay taxes, I can pass some of those "savings" to the customer, thus beating the competition on price. If you must compete, you must avoid taxes, thus cheat.
- bennysomething 5y ago
  So the only way you can compete is by avoiding tax?
  - brezelgoring 5y ago
    All other things being equal, yes. Ceteris Paribus is a thing in economics. Basically what he means is that if you optimize everything in your business, all that remains is what is outside the bounds of the law, if you cheat, you'll win, basically forcing the other to cheat as well. Also, all big businesses cheat tax, either by using creative licensing agreements between subsidiaries or by miscategorizing things. This isn't new.
    - bennysomething 5y ago
      Sorry, I competed absolutely fine when I had an Airbnb rented out for a year. I certainly paid my tax. I didn't cheat anyone. Your proposition that to compete I must cheat doesn't stand up. Individuals chose airbnbs based on quite a few variables. The only time things are going to be equal is if the units for rent are identically positioned, decorated to same standard, have the same furniture and appliances.
      - brezelgoring 5y ago
        >[...] The only time things are going to be equal is if the units for rent are identically positioned, decorated to same standard, have the same furniture and appliances I agree, I mentioned this in my previous comment. >[...] Basically what he means is that if you optimize everything in your business [...] Ceteris Paribus is a theoretical exercise or tool, if you will, but it is useful in trying to understand one of the variables involved in a calculation. We're not disagreeing here, you don't have to cheat, nor should you, but if both of you had clone apartments one in front of the other but your neighbor doesn't pay tax, he's going to get picked first, every time.

If I don't pay taxes, I can pass some of those "savings" to the customer, thus beating the competition on price. If you must compete, you must avoid taxes, thus cheat.

bennysomething 5y ago
So the only way you can compete is by avoiding tax?
- brezelgoring 5y ago
  All other things being equal, yes. Ceteris Paribus is a thing in economics. Basically what he means is that if you optimize everything in your business, all that remains is what is outside the bounds of the law, if you cheat, you'll win, basically forcing the other to cheat as well. Also, all big businesses cheat tax, either by using creative licensing agreements between subsidiaries or by miscategorizing things. This isn't new.
  - bennysomething 5y ago
    Sorry, I competed absolutely fine when I had an Airbnb rented out for a year. I certainly paid my tax. I didn't cheat anyone. Your proposition that to compete I must cheat doesn't stand up. Individuals chose airbnbs based on quite a few variables. The only time things are going to be equal is if the units for rent are identically positioned, decorated to same standard, have the same furniture and appliances.
    - brezelgoring 5y ago
      >[...] The only time things are going to be equal is if the units for rent are identically positioned, decorated to same standard, have the same furniture and appliances I agree, I mentioned this in my previous comment. >[...] Basically what he means is that if you optimize everything in your business [...] Ceteris Paribus is a theoretical exercise or tool, if you will, but it is useful in trying to understand one of the variables involved in a calculation. We're not disagreeing here, you don't have to cheat, nor should you, but if both of you had clone apartments one in front of the other but your neighbor doesn't pay tax, he's going to get picked first, every time.