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Of the many, many differences between modern and traditional architecture is that if you look at a modern building you have absolutely no idea where it is. It c
by rsj_hn 5y ago
Of the many, many differences between modern and traditional architecture is that if you look at a modern building you have absolutely no idea where it is. It could be in Melbourne, Vancouver, Chicago, Santiago, Los Angeles, etc -- it doesn't matter, because there is no notion of working with local materials, using traditional local idioms. It doesn't try to "fit" into a neighborhood, it tries to stand out. Yes, there are some exceptions, but they are very few.
The other thing that really bothers me is the lack of proper scale. It doesn't seem human scaled at all. Here walkability is a big problem as it's very unpleasant to walk around modern architecture. In the Federal building in San Francisco, which seems to be designed to intimidate, this is the view of someone walking by
the north side:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7795358,-122.4125483,3a,75y,134.57h,88.67t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sYzpSvRhVg-TN1IPQ4H0ckw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DYzpSvRhVg-TN1IPQ4H0ckw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D183.33746%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192 https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7795358,-122.4125483,3a,75y,...
East side:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7798315,-122.4116884,3a,75y,226.09h,110.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPA-03x8-yufxc4scC9qC0A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7798315,-122.4116884,3a,75y,...
south side:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.778619,-122.4117745,3a,75y,313.27h,85.19t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1slqttE8VpnqgXVHK2Ti4u6A!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DlqttE8VpnqgXVHK2Ti4u6A%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D271.53812%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192 https://www.google.com/maps/@37.778619,-122.4117745,3a,75y,3...
West side:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7785627,-122.412846,3a,75y,44.26h,100.69t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sbu4CJUvi2_KXoodv1B_HJQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Dbu4CJUvi2_KXoodv1B_HJQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D43.223248%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192 https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7785627,-122.412846,3a,75y,4...
Suffice it to say, it doesn't promote walkability. Meanwhile, here is a much older federal building just a few blocks down:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7808148,-122.4143869,3a,75y,171.88h,77.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNzsSJqKzwNVZNyXW_WkezQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7808148,-122.4143869,3a,75y,...
- rbanffy 5y agoIt looks like it was awarded to the lowest bidder. Remember, they need to spend money responsibly and the minimum possible for the entire lifetime of the structure. A tall brick allows putting the largest number of people inside a structure that can be cheaply and quickly built. Imagine the people would be protesting if they tried to make it beautiful and it got also expensive in the process.
- m000 5y agoI would say that the design of the federal building in SF has less to do with modern architectural trends, and more to do with the plausible (?) fear that some wacko will ram through an unprotected entrance in a van loaded with TNT.
- rsj_hn 5y agoThat really doesn't require 50 foot high massive walls of blank concrete going up from the sidewalk. You can use bollards to address that threat with setbacks and still have human scale architecture. The bollards will stop any vehicle and they can look quite nice: https://www.degemmill.com/content/uploads/2017/07/Bollards-_-Site-Amendities_-Architectural-_-Decorative-Bollard.jpg https://www.degemmill.com/content/uploads/2017/07/Bollards-_... Then a setback can even be paved with cobblestones or slate or other material pleasant to walk on, with trees, and behind that a beautiful, human scaled building is possible. Here are the bollards in front of the older federal building: https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7807829,-122.4146106,3a,75y,152.34h,85.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sACQ-y7VCUgBJ-mjgUJzpbA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7807829,-122.4146106,3a,75y,...
- SAI_Peregrinus 5y agoThey even make planters built to be bollards. EG https://www.tymetal.com/crash/crash-bollards/security-planter/ https://www.tymetal.com/crash/crash-bollards/security-plante... or https://www.grainger.com/category/security/access-barriers-and-crowd-control/decorative-security-barriers-and-bollards?attrs=Item%7CSecurity+Planter&filters=attrs https://www.grainger.com/category/security/access-barriers-a...