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What state laws are you referring to? Why are localities powerless? This seems like an emergent phenomena that should be addressed by legislative action. What

What state laws are you referring to? Why are localities powerless? This seems like an emergent phenomena that should be addressed by legislative action. What is preventing that action?

rp1 5y ago
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.northjersey.com/amp/772438002 https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.northjersey.com/amp/7724380... Basically, the state doesn’t want towns to have the ability to limit traffic on their roadways.
- raldi 5y ago
  Imagine what would happen to Leonia property values if residents were banned from driving on Manhattan streets. Society is about cooperation. Leonia benefits immensely from its proximity to Manhattan, and in return, people coming into and out of Manhattan get to pass through Leonia.
  - rp1 5y ago
    Manhattan has congestion pricing. And the tolls to get in are $20. I’m sure Leonia would be happy to charge commuters those rates.
    - raldi 5y ago
      Manhattan does not have congestion pricing. They’re studying it, and according to their announced schedule will continue to be studying it until at least late 2023. NJ residents are furious and the governor has vowed to fight this "discrimination". https://nypost.com/2021/10/09/nj-commuters-vow-to-fight-pending-manhattan-congestion-tax/ https://nypost.com/2021/10/09/nj-commuters-vow-to-fight-pend...
      - rp1 5y ago
        Sorry, I meant to say that Manhattan has *approved* congestion pricing. Also, the stance of the NJ governor is totally consistent with the issue I'm complaining about. The town of Leonia wants to limit traffic on their streets and the state of NJ has barred them from doing so. The NJ state government is taking the same stance when Manhattan tries to limit traffic on its streets. Despite having some of the best mass transit options in the U.S., the NJ state government is strictly pro-car.
- gwright 5y ago
  That article suggests basic bureaucratic turf battles (process wasn't followed, people weren't consulted, existing law prohibits etc.) and not a specific response to the navigation-app routing problem. Still seems to me that this problem is properly addressed by the state and municipalities and is within their purview. On the surface the solution that the municipality came up with seems reasonable, they just need to work with the state DOT to jump through the administrative hoops.

What state laws are you referring to? Why are localities powerless? This seems like an emergent phenomena that should be addressed by legislative action. What is preventing that action?

rp1 5y ago

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.northjersey.com/amp/772438002 https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.northjersey.com/amp/7724380... Basically, the state doesn’t want towns to have the ability to limit traffic on their roadways.

raldi 5y ago
Imagine what would happen to Leonia property values if residents were banned from driving on Manhattan streets. Society is about cooperation. Leonia benefits immensely from its proximity to Manhattan, and in return, people coming into and out of Manhattan get to pass through Leonia.
- rp1 5y ago
  Manhattan has congestion pricing. And the tolls to get in are $20. I’m sure Leonia would be happy to charge commuters those rates.
  - raldi 5y ago
    Manhattan does not have congestion pricing. They’re studying it, and according to their announced schedule will continue to be studying it until at least late 2023. NJ residents are furious and the governor has vowed to fight this "discrimination". https://nypost.com/2021/10/09/nj-commuters-vow-to-fight-pending-manhattan-congestion-tax/ https://nypost.com/2021/10/09/nj-commuters-vow-to-fight-pend...
    - rp1 5y ago
      Sorry, I meant to say that Manhattan has *approved* congestion pricing. Also, the stance of the NJ governor is totally consistent with the issue I'm complaining about. The town of Leonia wants to limit traffic on their streets and the state of NJ has barred them from doing so. The NJ state government is taking the same stance when Manhattan tries to limit traffic on its streets. Despite having some of the best mass transit options in the U.S., the NJ state government is strictly pro-car.
gwright 5y ago
That article suggests basic bureaucratic turf battles (process wasn't followed, people weren't consulted, existing law prohibits etc.) and not a specific response to the navigation-app routing problem. Still seems to me that this problem is properly addressed by the state and municipalities and is within their purview. On the surface the solution that the municipality came up with seems reasonable, they just need to work with the state DOT to jump through the administrative hoops.