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I've seen this happen IRL recently, where a company decided against hiring someone due a history of strongly opinionated employee activism.

by cm2012 5y ago

bko 5y ago
I don't blame them. I would definitely consider activism when picking someone for my team. At the end of the day I like working in mission focused organizations. I love working with a diverse group of people, but it's critical that a mission unites us
- bawolff 5y ago
  Do you really believe your mission unites your employees? Maybe if you're curing cancer or something, but for most tech workers working on some generic CRUD app, they pay lip service to being motivated by the "mission", but settle for something mildly interesting that hopefully isn't actively doing evil in the world. Your employees trade time and skill for money. Hearts and souls is a much less common trade.
  - bko 5y ago
    It doesn't matter what the mission is so much as there is one. If the mission is build a beautiful website or a well designed flexible backend, then that's fine. In that case we come in every day and drive towards that.
    - bawolff 5y ago
      Perhaps we're using the word "mission" differently. I would call that a goal, and i agree its important. In most places i have worked, the mission has been some high minded rhetoric about how we're going to change the world for the better that is really disconnected from what we actually do.
elgernon 5y ago
I would never hire someone with public activism record. In fact I'd rather hire someone with prior criminal record, as they actually have a chance to recover.
- dang 5y ago
  Would you please stop creating accounts that use HN primarily for ideological battle? It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. As you know, we ban such accounts regardless of what they're for or against. I've banned this one. If you want to use HN as intended—for intellectual curiosity—then you're welcome, but ideological agendas are the opposite of that, irrespective of which ideology. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - over_the_raibow 5y ago
    >If you want to use HN as intended—for intellectual curiosity—then you're welcome, but ideological agendas are the opposite of that, irrespective of which ideology. You may not be interested in any ideology, but Ideology is surely interested in what you believe. That world where internet was for intellectual curiosity and not ideology battle at every step, is long gone and never coming back.
    - dang 5y ago
      Maybe so, but the site guidelines haven't changed. If we have to ban more accounts for breaking them, that's fine. It's certainly better than not banning them.

I've seen this happen IRL recently, where a company decided against hiring someone due a history of strongly opinionated employee activism.

by cm2012 5y ago

I've seen this happen IRL recently, where a company decided against hiring someone due a history of strongly opinionated employee activism.

bko 5y ago

I don't blame them. I would definitely consider activism when picking someone for my team. At the end of the day I like working in mission focused organizations. I love working with a diverse group of people, but it's critical that a mission unites us

bawolff 5y ago
Do you really believe your mission unites your employees? Maybe if you're curing cancer or something, but for most tech workers working on some generic CRUD app, they pay lip service to being motivated by the "mission", but settle for something mildly interesting that hopefully isn't actively doing evil in the world. Your employees trade time and skill for money. Hearts and souls is a much less common trade.
- bko 5y ago
  It doesn't matter what the mission is so much as there is one. If the mission is build a beautiful website or a well designed flexible backend, then that's fine. In that case we come in every day and drive towards that.
  - bawolff 5y ago
    Perhaps we're using the word "mission" differently. I would call that a goal, and i agree its important. In most places i have worked, the mission has been some high minded rhetoric about how we're going to change the world for the better that is really disconnected from what we actually do.

elgernon 5y ago

I would never hire someone with public activism record. In fact I'd rather hire someone with prior criminal record, as they actually have a chance to recover.

dang 5y ago
Would you please stop creating accounts that use HN primarily for ideological battle? It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. As you know, we ban such accounts regardless of what they're for or against. I've banned this one. If you want to use HN as intended—for intellectual curiosity—then you're welcome, but ideological agendas are the opposite of that, irrespective of which ideology. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- over_the_raibow 5y ago
  >If you want to use HN as intended—for intellectual curiosity—then you're welcome, but ideological agendas are the opposite of that, irrespective of which ideology. You may not be interested in any ideology, but Ideology is surely interested in what you believe. That world where internet was for intellectual curiosity and not ideology battle at every step, is long gone and never coming back.
  - dang 5y ago
    Maybe so, but the site guidelines haven't changed. If we have to ban more accounts for breaking them, that's fine. It's certainly better than not banning them.