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If we want to talk about moral virtue, actions speak louder than words. Dave, by the sounds of it was a kind and gracious friend to Daphne and this was corrobo

If we want to talk about moral virtue, actions speak louder than words. Dave, by the sounds of it was a kind and gracious friend to Daphne and this was corroborated by her family. He offered her to open for him in a club as well, a great opportunity given his tenure as a comedian. In addition, upon hearing of her passing, setup a trust for her daughter. The twitter mob on the other hand tried to have her cancelled after she defended him because she knew that he had no ill-intent. In my opinion, the 1K employees who are walking are doing so on the flimsiest of moral foundations. Dave has done more for Daphne and her family than any of the 1K employees or the twitter mob ever will. Moral outrage is not generous or kind to anyone, period.

rc2634 5y ago
In the twisted world of Twitter, virtue-signaling and calling people out gets you more recognition than any kind action that actually makes a damn difference.
- lborsato 5y ago
  The twisted world of Twitter consists of people who claim to care about others for internet points, yet have no idea what empathy is.
clairity 5y ago
this is now beyond the facts of the matter and has crossed over into controversy-as-marketing. (personally have no interest in this controversy, or chappelle, who i find angry and unfunny.)
bawolff 5y ago
I don't support internet mobs - they generally seem to hurt innocent people (or hurt the guilty in excess of what they deserve) - but i don't see those two as mutually exclusive. Presumably the twitter mob is mad (rightly or wrongly - i havent watched the special) about transphobia by Dave in general. It is entirely possible that Dave could be a great friend to Daphne and be transphobic at the same time. You can be friends with a trans person and transphobic at the same time (just like you can be sexist and friends with a woman at the same time, etc). Those two things aren't mutually exclusive.
- empthought 5y ago
  Just because you disagree with someone — even about something as fundamental as the nature of their personal identity —doesn’t mean you’re bigoted or “phobic.” My mom believes she has an immortal soul that is redeemed by Jesus Christ whose body and blood are present in the Eucharist. I disagree. Does this make me a soulphobe who hates Catholics?
  - birthday 5y ago
    It doesn't, but the social virus that is wokeism labels you as phobic and will make you PAY for being one. Wokeness is a nasty social virus that has infected the USA, and it slowly but surely is causing the USA to implode.
    - abandonliberty 5y ago
      It's just bullying. "Wokeism" gives bullies the opportunity to bully in socially acceptable ways. Note the comments in this thread defending the mobs. If wokeism wasn't around, they'd find something else to oppress people. Ironically, these people would've been _great_ racists in a different time. The problem is bullying. I don't know why it's so hard for people to recognize when they agree with the bully, but these sorts of tactics are never acceptable. It's incredibly damaging to the cause of social justice. These assholes become the de-facto voice/face of the movement they claim to support, and destroy it. "Woke" white bullies took over the movement, and are once again telling minorities what's good for them and how they should feel, all while alienating any potential converts. It's actually pretty darkly, depressingly hilarious. https://www.forbes.com/sites/danabrownlee/2021/04/19/why-white-people-should-stop-using-the-term-wokeimmediately/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/danabrownlee/2021/04/19/why-whi...
      - over_the_raibow 5y ago
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rc2634 5y ago

In the twisted world of Twitter, virtue-signaling and calling people out gets you more recognition than any kind action that actually makes a damn difference.

lborsato 5y ago
The twisted world of Twitter consists of people who claim to care about others for internet points, yet have no idea what empathy is.

clairity 5y ago

this is now beyond the facts of the matter and has crossed over into controversy-as-marketing. (personally have no interest in this controversy, or chappelle, who i find angry and unfunny.)

bawolff 5y ago

I don't support internet mobs - they generally seem to hurt innocent people (or hurt the guilty in excess of what they deserve) - but i don't see those two as mutually exclusive. Presumably the twitter mob is mad (rightly or wrongly - i havent watched the special) about transphobia by Dave in general. It is entirely possible that Dave could be a great friend to Daphne and be transphobic at the same time. You can be friends with a trans person and transphobic at the same time (just like you can be sexist and friends with a woman at the same time, etc). Those two things aren't mutually exclusive.

empthought 5y ago
Just because you disagree with someone — even about something as fundamental as the nature of their personal identity —doesn’t mean you’re bigoted or “phobic.” My mom believes she has an immortal soul that is redeemed by Jesus Christ whose body and blood are present in the Eucharist. I disagree. Does this make me a soulphobe who hates Catholics?
- birthday 5y ago
  It doesn't, but the social virus that is wokeism labels you as phobic and will make you PAY for being one. Wokeness is a nasty social virus that has infected the USA, and it slowly but surely is causing the USA to implode.
  - abandonliberty 5y ago
    It's just bullying. "Wokeism" gives bullies the opportunity to bully in socially acceptable ways. Note the comments in this thread defending the mobs. If wokeism wasn't around, they'd find something else to oppress people. Ironically, these people would've been _great_ racists in a different time. The problem is bullying. I don't know why it's so hard for people to recognize when they agree with the bully, but these sorts of tactics are never acceptable. It's incredibly damaging to the cause of social justice. These assholes become the de-facto voice/face of the movement they claim to support, and destroy it. "Woke" white bullies took over the movement, and are once again telling minorities what's good for them and how they should feel, all while alienating any potential converts. It's actually pretty darkly, depressingly hilarious. https://www.forbes.com/sites/danabrownlee/2021/04/19/why-white-people-should-stop-using-the-term-wokeimmediately/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/danabrownlee/2021/04/19/why-whi...
    - over_the_raibow 5y ago
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