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More black trans women were violently murdered in 2020 than in any other year since HRC began tracking. https://www.hrc.org/resources/fatal-violence-against-the

by lkey 5y ago

More black trans women were violently murdered in 2020 than in any other year since HRC began tracking. https://www.hrc.org/resources/fatal-violence-against-the-transgender-and-gender-non-conforming-community-in-2021 https://www.hrc.org/resources/fatal-violence-against-the-tra... 2021 is looking to surpass that... Part of his criticism was centered around how the 'alphabet people' have made rapid strides, but that conveniently forgets that black people can be gay or trans too, and also haven't made the same gains white LGBTQ folks have. I'll gladly cede that America is more structurally and culturally anti-black than they are anti-LGBTQ, but that isn't the argument he was making. This is a pet peeve of mine, but someone actually tell me which millionaire/billionaire actually remained 'cancelled' after being cancelled. As far as I can tell, the only people actually being cancelled are the trans people being fired from their jobs for finding the special distasteful and voicing that publicly.

SuoDuanDao 5y ago
>This is a pet peeve of mine, but someone actually tell me which millionaire/billionaire actually remained 'cancelled' after being cancelled. Papa John?
- lkey 5y ago
  I'm fairly certain that was primarily his coke? habit and the n-word fiasco was the excuse the board needed. Also he definitely was given interviews afterward while he was promising a very sweaty 'day of reckoning'. https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1199167890370510848 https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1199167890370510848 But fair enough, I haven't seen much of him since.
SlowRobotAhead 5y ago
That list of murdered trans people is awful. I wonder why only two I could find were trans men, and almost all were in large cities? Is it that much safer to be a trans man than a trans woman? It’s a shame there isn’t any details at all around the circumstances of their deaths. I wonder if that could have relevant content at all?
- empthought 5y ago
  The majority were killed by their partners, who were of course not at all radical feminists.
tablespoon 5y ago
> This is a pet peeve of mine, but someone actually tell me which millionaire/billionaire actually remained 'cancelled' after being cancelled. From what I gather, Louis CK and Garrison Keillor are still cancelled (e.g. reduced to releasing stuff on their own personal websites). Also, the kind of people who get canceled are entertainers and academics, and few if any of those are billionaires. I'm not even sure how "canceling" a billionaire would even work.
pseudo0 5y ago
It's rather disingenuous to point at the increase in murders like that, given how 2020 saw a huge spike in murders year over year for the general population. So 44 trans people were murdered in 2020, out of a total of 21,570 in the US [0]. Estimates for the trans population range from 0.39% [1] to 0.58% [2]. That's about 2-3x lower than we'd expect, as a population of that size with an equivalent murder rate would have 84-125 homicides per year. If we zoom in on black trans people and compare them to the black population as a whole, 27 were murdered compared to 9,941 for the black population [3]. Doing a bit of napkin math, and with the assumption that the rate of transgender identification is the same in the black and non-black populations, and using 46.9 million for the black population, we get: 21.2 murders / 100k for the black population 16.2-24.1 murders / 100k for the black trans population (using 0.58% for the first figure, and 0.39% for the second). So the surprising conclusion seems to be that the trans population has a significantly lower homicide victimization rate compared to the general population, and black trans population has a slightly lower rate than the black population. And if anything, I'd expect this gap to expand once correcting for age (the trans population skews younger) and the rapid increase in trans identification over the few years. [0] - https://www.statista.com/statistics/191134/reported-murder-and-nonnegligent-manslaughter-cases-in-the-us-since-1990/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/191134/reported-murder-a... [1] - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5227946/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5227946/ [2] - https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/transgender-population-by-state https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/transgender... [3] - https://crime-data-explorer.app.cloud.gov/pages/explorer/crime/shr https://crime-data-explorer.app.cloud.gov/pages/explorer/cri...
- elgernon 5y ago
  this is the kind of comment I come to HN for, informative and based on facts.
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by lkey 5y ago

SuoDuanDao 5y ago

>This is a pet peeve of mine, but someone actually tell me which millionaire/billionaire actually remained 'cancelled' after being cancelled. Papa John?

lkey 5y ago
I'm fairly certain that was primarily his coke? habit and the n-word fiasco was the excuse the board needed. Also he definitely was given interviews afterward while he was promising a very sweaty 'day of reckoning'. https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1199167890370510848 https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1199167890370510848 But fair enough, I haven't seen much of him since.

SlowRobotAhead 5y ago

That list of murdered trans people is awful. I wonder why only two I could find were trans men, and almost all were in large cities? Is it that much safer to be a trans man than a trans woman? It’s a shame there isn’t any details at all around the circumstances of their deaths. I wonder if that could have relevant content at all?

empthought 5y ago
The majority were killed by their partners, who were of course not at all radical feminists.

tablespoon 5y ago

> This is a pet peeve of mine, but someone actually tell me which millionaire/billionaire actually remained 'cancelled' after being cancelled. From what I gather, Louis CK and Garrison Keillor are still cancelled (e.g. reduced to releasing stuff on their own personal websites). Also, the kind of people who get canceled are entertainers and academics, and few if any of those are billionaires. I'm not even sure how "canceling" a billionaire would even work.

pseudo0 5y ago

It's rather disingenuous to point at the increase in murders like that, given how 2020 saw a huge spike in murders year over year for the general population. So 44 trans people were murdered in 2020, out of a total of 21,570 in the US [0]. Estimates for the trans population range from 0.39% [1] to 0.58% [2]. That's about 2-3x lower than we'd expect, as a population of that size with an equivalent murder rate would have 84-125 homicides per year. If we zoom in on black trans people and compare them to the black population as a whole, 27 were murdered compared to 9,941 for the black population [3]. Doing a bit of napkin math, and with the assumption that the rate of transgender identification is the same in the black and non-black populations, and using 46.9 million for the black population, we get: 21.2 murders / 100k for the black population 16.2-24.1 murders / 100k for the black trans population (using 0.58% for the first figure, and 0.39% for the second). So the surprising conclusion seems to be that the trans population has a significantly lower homicide victimization rate compared to the general population, and black trans population has a slightly lower rate than the black population. And if anything, I'd expect this gap to expand once correcting for age (the trans population skews younger) and the rapid increase in trans identification over the few years. [0] - https://www.statista.com/statistics/191134/reported-murder-and-nonnegligent-manslaughter-cases-in-the-us-since-1990/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/191134/reported-murder-a... [1] - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5227946/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5227946/ [2] - https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/transgender-population-by-state https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/transgender... [3] - https://crime-data-explorer.app.cloud.gov/pages/explorer/crime/shr https://crime-data-explorer.app.cloud.gov/pages/explorer/cri...

elgernon 5y ago
this is the kind of comment I come to HN for, informative and based on facts.
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