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Something said by a comedian doesn’t make it a joke. And something being a joke doesn’t shield it (or the teller) from criticism.

skeletron 5y ago
A man claiming that he's a woman because he wears a dress and make-up and really believes he's a woman is kind of inherently funny, in an absurd way. Feels like we're all living inside a Monty Python sketch right now. That one from Life of Brian comes to mind. And if this is what people consider important enough to go on strike for, then that's even more bizarrely amusing. A thousand people bunking off work because a comedian told some jokes about this. It's astounding really.
- zozbot234 5y ago
  > A man claiming that he's a woman because he wears a dress and make-up and really believes he's a woman Actually, my understanding is that it's really only the radical activists who insist on that sort of thing. Most real-world trans folks are sensible enough to grok the fact that while they might perform socially as their gender of choice, they don't in fact embody it in the same way as someone who was assigned that gender at birth would.
  - skeletron 5y ago
    I think you may well be right, though it's hard to say just how many trans people aren't on board with these controversial ontological claims of gender identity activism - perhaps in part because those who speak out against it get accused of 'internalized transphobia' and such, and relentlessly bullied by the activists.
raverbashing 5y ago
Agreed, as in a lot of times comedy is used as a fake excuse to get out of something that intended to offend. If the main point was critique with comedy, sure, it makes sense to see through it.
- SlowRobotAhead 5y ago
  “ Ful ofte in game a sooth I have herd saye!” (Many a true word is spoken in jest) Accredited to Chaucer
  - raverbashing 5y ago
    Of course. That's my second point there. But you can't just say "F You!" and say it's a joke. It's not a "free for all" card. It has to at least try to be funny

skeletron 5y ago

A man claiming that he's a woman because he wears a dress and make-up and really believes he's a woman is kind of inherently funny, in an absurd way. Feels like we're all living inside a Monty Python sketch right now. That one from Life of Brian comes to mind. And if this is what people consider important enough to go on strike for, then that's even more bizarrely amusing. A thousand people bunking off work because a comedian told some jokes about this. It's astounding really.

zozbot234 5y ago
> A man claiming that he's a woman because he wears a dress and make-up and really believes he's a woman Actually, my understanding is that it's really only the radical activists who insist on that sort of thing. Most real-world trans folks are sensible enough to grok the fact that while they might perform socially as their gender of choice, they don't in fact embody it in the same way as someone who was assigned that gender at birth would.
- skeletron 5y ago
  I think you may well be right, though it's hard to say just how many trans people aren't on board with these controversial ontological claims of gender identity activism - perhaps in part because those who speak out against it get accused of 'internalized transphobia' and such, and relentlessly bullied by the activists.

raverbashing 5y ago

Agreed, as in a lot of times comedy is used as a fake excuse to get out of something that intended to offend. If the main point was critique with comedy, sure, it makes sense to see through it.

SlowRobotAhead 5y ago
“ Ful ofte in game a sooth I have herd saye!” (Many a true word is spoken in jest) Accredited to Chaucer
- raverbashing 5y ago
  Of course. That's my second point there. But you can't just say "F You!" and say it's a joke. It's not a "free for all" card. It has to at least try to be funny