> I still think jobs for people to "write their own plans and then execute the tests themselves" have mostly been automated out of existence, Where I work, it'

> I still think jobs for people to "write their own plans and then execute the tests themselves" have mostly been automated out of existence, Where I work, it's complicated to automate a lot of things, mostly because of the various installation configuration and how testing has to rely on external hardware like HSM and smartcards. And so the QA write the test plans and execute them, with automation testing non-regression on the most current use cases > and they were still low-paid in Joel's mind. Though I think the QA people at my current job at less paid than the equivalent on the dev side.