> what other primates do may not translate to good public policy. True, but we weren't talking about whether it's good public policy, but about what the cause

> what other primates do may not translate to good public policy. True, but we weren't talking about whether it's good public policy, but about what the cause is. That chimpanzees exhibit bullying does not mean we should accept bullying, but it does mean we can't e.g. exclusively blame violent movies for bullying - not without strong additional evidence. > It seem weird to me that when women are on top it's the system's fault, but when the men are on top it is natural and/or biology. Both sides of the debate could stand to be more principled and objective, yes.