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> At a previous company we had someone angrily call in with a bug. We had moved a button several pixels and this broke some automation they had built which reli

by zmj 5y ago

> At a previous company we had someone angrily call in with a bug. We had moved a button several pixels and this broke some automation they had built which relied on the pixel coordinates of the button. This is part of why Windows doesn't update the old Control Panel screens - the UI is the API for automation like this, and backwards compatibility matters more than consistency.

Cyphase 5y ago
I don't find that particularly hard to believe, but do you have a reference for this?
MaxBarraclough 5y ago
A slight tangent: I know I'm not the only one who considers the old control panels to be far superior to the new ones, even if Microsoft disagrees. The new UIs won't allow you to keep open the Bluetooth config panel at the same time as the Windows Update config panel, for instance, as they share the One True Config Window. You can only view one at a time. A little ironic for an operating system named for its ability to run multiple UIs at once. Fortunately many of the old config UIs are still there on Windows 10, especially for more advanced points of configuration. I imagine the old UIs are also more resource-efficient, for what that's worth, following the usual trend with UI toolkits.
- nyanpasu64 5y ago
  KDE now won't let you open multiple settings pages at once either, unless you run kcmshell5 from a terminal.
- bombela 5y ago
  And the fact that the old control panels can display so much information and controls in such a compact form. While all the new UI stuff needs full screen and scroll bars on my 4k screen to display 5 toggle and few sentences.
  - GekkePrutser 5y ago
    True.. Though sadly the Windows settings screen is far from the only application doing this :'( It's like everything has to be touch friendly. Understood that this is great in some cases. But on my desktop PC it's not. I didn't buy a big screen to have half of it filled with empty space.
  - lathiat 5y ago
    The curse of every damn website in the mobile first and responsive some badly world. As a long time Pc user it drives me batty.

by zmj 5y ago

Cyphase 5y ago

I don't find that particularly hard to believe, but do you have a reference for this?

MaxBarraclough 5y ago

A slight tangent: I know I'm not the only one who considers the old control panels to be far superior to the new ones, even if Microsoft disagrees. The new UIs won't allow you to keep open the Bluetooth config panel at the same time as the Windows Update config panel, for instance, as they share the One True Config Window. You can only view one at a time. A little ironic for an operating system named for its ability to run multiple UIs at once. Fortunately many of the old config UIs are still there on Windows 10, especially for more advanced points of configuration. I imagine the old UIs are also more resource-efficient, for what that's worth, following the usual trend with UI toolkits.

nyanpasu64 5y ago
KDE now won't let you open multiple settings pages at once either, unless you run kcmshell5 from a terminal.
bombela 5y ago
And the fact that the old control panels can display so much information and controls in such a compact form. While all the new UI stuff needs full screen and scroll bars on my 4k screen to display 5 toggle and few sentences.
- GekkePrutser 5y ago
  True.. Though sadly the Windows settings screen is far from the only application doing this :'( It's like everything has to be touch friendly. Understood that this is great in some cases. But on my desktop PC it's not. I didn't buy a big screen to have half of it filled with empty space.
- lathiat 5y ago
  The curse of every damn website in the mobile first and responsive some badly world. As a long time Pc user it drives me batty.