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If you don't want to be kind to others then that's on you
by Eldt 5y ago
If you don't want to be kind to others then that's on you
- nuerow 5y ago> If you don't want to be kind to others then that's on you Kindness has really nothing to do with persecuting and punishing anyone who doesn't comply with arbitrary demands regarding etiquette.
- vibrato2 5y agoIt’s not kind to encourage delusions or mental illness. Loving someone enough to tell them the truth is kind.
- lostcolony 5y agoEven if you're against trans people, in an online forum, normalizing calling out pronouns allows cisgendered women to say "I'm a woman and would like to be called as such" without it being disruptive or cause men to view her as pushy.
- vibrato2 5y agoI think that would be pushy. Several of my teammates are immigrants and frequently misuse he/she him/her It’s irrelevant.
- lostcolony 5y agoAll the more reason to explicitly call it out ahead of time, so they can be certain to use the right ones. Why would it be pushy, -especially- if there's reason to believe someone will use the wrong ones? Really, I don't understand the objection; we pre-emptively give our names to people, for all the same reasons we might give people our pronouns.
- Jensson 5y agoI see it the same as telling colleagues they are fat etc. It is rude. If you keep it up when they ask you to stop likely you get fired, even if you are right. Anyway, in my opinion if they make a bigger deal out of it than if when you call people fat then it is just politics. But I still wouldn't do it myself, just like I don't call people fat even if I think they are. If they push me then I will tell the truth, but if they push me to hear my opinion about their pronouns or gender then it is hard to say that it is me bullying them rather than the other way around. Edit: But I think this was originally about being forced to show your pronouns online. Not sure I'd like that, seems pushy and bullying to me. I'd rather people not have that information, even saying they/them is information that I am not comfortable showing my gender, why would I want to give people that information?
- baremetal 5y agowhy would you not be comfortable with showing your gender. you have to live in your body you might as well accept it.
- type0 5y agoThe way I see this, my sexual preferences has nothing to do with software development. I know a bunch of people disagree, sometimes even claim you can't develop software without sexuality but that's actually discriminating against asexual individuals and often against people on the spectrum that are not in able to express their feelings. It's all deeply troubling. In my language (non-indoeropean ) there is no difference between he and she, that regularly puts me into trouble for somehow "intentionally" mis-gendering others and there's never any lenience expressed towards me for that.
- detaro 5y agogender has nothing to do with sexual preferences.
- baremetal 5y agoyou arent special, and neither am i. me not treating you special, isnt unkind. not sure how you draw these conclusions.
- vibrato2 5y agoThe mentality of people on this site could not be weaker and more fragile. Flagged for saying that it’s not kind to lie to people! Lol Satanism is alive and well in Silicon Valley.
- scollet 5y agoHow is Satanism related in this case and what exactly is the problem with it?
- vibrato2 5y agoSatan is known as the prince of lies. Denying biology is about as demonic as humans can act. The only problem with satanism is living in hell. I wish those afflicted with gender disphoria well. Society encouraging their mental illness hasn’t decreased their huge suicide rate. (40%+ attempted) Jesus is the truth and the Way.