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The browser is becoming a TV. In the future, computers with keyboards and actual user control will be specialty devices for experts, quite separated from the co

by toxik 5y ago

The browser is becoming a TV. In the future, computers with keyboards and actual user control will be specialty devices for experts, quite separated from the content you can access today. It is really sad to see what humankind is about to lose in the name of copyright and content ownership. We really could have a share everything utopia, but no, our societies are built on adversarial competition and our politicians are unwilling or simply unable to stop the unending barrage of overreaches.

arpa 5y ago
I don't want to believe the battle is lost, but I don't see a way to fight back aside from establishing a hacker counterculture, which is kind of happening with tor and internet alternatives.
selectodude 5y ago
You’re aware that is what people actually want though.
- TeMPOraL 5y ago
  Which people? The ones that want to get rich at the expense of others, or the ones the former bamboozle into believing this is how tech should work?
  - selectodude 5y ago
    The vast majority of people who want to pull a television out of the box, log into netflix, and watch their shows. For them, technology is a means to an end. Nothing more.
- toxik 5y ago
  People want to consume their content, nowhere does that dictate that they sign away their rights and actual ownership of their devices that they buy with their own money. The already existing DRM is user hostile, it is about control and nothing else. Users do NOT want these things, if you took the time to explain what it means, and gave them another option. The only reason the current set of DRM malware still exists today is by artificial scarcity, and mafia-like bullying through courts. Public opinion was largely in favor of peer to peer sharing content, but that wasn’t good enough for the big boys. They wanted to be able to bring ALL other parties to their knees: cable manufacturers, display makers, computer makers, storage device makers, and of course, users. EVERYONE is now under their control. The general public is apathetic to the issue of DRM, they certainly don’t want it. But they are not given a choice. You must have a HDCP certified computer, cable and display - otherwise no content for you.
google234123 5y ago
> We really could have a share everything utopia The Soviet Union also had a similar idea... utopia can only be approached across a sea of blood, and you never arrive
- toxik 5y ago
  So DRM and the constant rent seeking bullshit content owners put us up to is okay because the Soviet union was an oppressive regime? Did you really think this was a good argument against stopping the copyright abuse happening today?

by toxik 5y ago

arpa 5y ago

I don't want to believe the battle is lost, but I don't see a way to fight back aside from establishing a hacker counterculture, which is kind of happening with tor and internet alternatives.

selectodude 5y ago

You’re aware that is what people actually want though.

TeMPOraL 5y ago
Which people? The ones that want to get rich at the expense of others, or the ones the former bamboozle into believing this is how tech should work?
- selectodude 5y ago
  The vast majority of people who want to pull a television out of the box, log into netflix, and watch their shows. For them, technology is a means to an end. Nothing more.
toxik 5y ago
People want to consume their content, nowhere does that dictate that they sign away their rights and actual ownership of their devices that they buy with their own money. The already existing DRM is user hostile, it is about control and nothing else. Users do NOT want these things, if you took the time to explain what it means, and gave them another option. The only reason the current set of DRM malware still exists today is by artificial scarcity, and mafia-like bullying through courts. Public opinion was largely in favor of peer to peer sharing content, but that wasn’t good enough for the big boys. They wanted to be able to bring ALL other parties to their knees: cable manufacturers, display makers, computer makers, storage device makers, and of course, users. EVERYONE is now under their control. The general public is apathetic to the issue of DRM, they certainly don’t want it. But they are not given a choice. You must have a HDCP certified computer, cable and display - otherwise no content for you.

google234123 5y ago

> We really could have a share everything utopia The Soviet Union also had a similar idea... utopia can only be approached across a sea of blood, and you never arrive

toxik 5y ago
So DRM and the constant rent seeking bullshit content owners put us up to is okay because the Soviet union was an oppressive regime? Did you really think this was a good argument against stopping the copyright abuse happening today?