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Wait, are such devices even legal? Looks like walking spy-cam to me. I want to know if someone records video/takes picture of me. With this glasses you can`t te

by mgreb 5y ago

Wait, are such devices even legal? Looks like walking spy-cam to me. I want to know if someone records video/takes picture of me. With this glasses you can`t tell if you are being filmed.

blackoil 5y ago
Is it illegal to shoot videos in public place without permission of all present ? Private places may have their own rules. Also this is R&D, long way before such questions matter.
- jjulius 5y ago
  Nah, these questions matter now.
- de_keyboard 5y ago
  In most western countries it is legal. I'm not sure it should be, given recent technological advances.
- picardythird 5y ago
  Don't you think answering these questions should guide the R&D?
KaiserPro 5y ago
Yes, there is a "right to panorama" in most countries. However this dataset has been recorded with the _express permission_ of all the people involved. Which is different to the imagenet, where they just crawled a whole bunch of images and called it a day. Second, you need to take the "Argh its facebook, boo hiss" hat off. Then apply some critical thinking. an AR world that is connected to the physical _requires_ this kind of thing. Your device need to anticipate what you are going to do so that it can work out the probability of your need and act on it. Like Jeeves, but less able, and more annoying. As its ML, it need a massive dataset to train on. this is <0.5% of that dataset. Depending on how things are done, if facebook are first to market with a usable AR system, they will be forced to have anonymisation built in (as in remove faces at the sensor level, unless you have permission to remember). Apple will have a showy "pixelation" layer, that is mostly ineffectual, but will PR it out to make them seem like they've cured cancer. Google, if they ever manage to get back into AR will just make things cheap and let the shitty android marketplace spy on what ever they like. You will also have to remember that the power budget of these glasses is absolutely fucking tiny. All day screen, SLAM, AI and possibly music will need to all fit in to ~2-5watt hours. This means that virtually everything will need to be on device. (dropping to the cloud eats a boat load of power.) Now that's not to say that 100% accurate [if thats even possible] "diarisation" won't rip society apart. There are lots of questions that need to be answered, the problem is, tech journalists are ill equipped to ask them. Most of the teams designing the glasses are well meaning, but their targets and life experience has not equipped them to do a good job at ethics.

by mgreb 5y ago

Wait, are such devices even legal? Looks like walking spy-cam to me. I want to know if someone records video/takes picture of me. With this glasses you can`t tell if you are being filmed.

blackoil 5y ago

Is it illegal to shoot videos in public place without permission of all present ? Private places may have their own rules. Also this is R&D, long way before such questions matter.

jjulius 5y ago
Nah, these questions matter now.
de_keyboard 5y ago
In most western countries it is legal. I'm not sure it should be, given recent technological advances.
picardythird 5y ago
Don't you think answering these questions should guide the R&D?

KaiserPro 5y ago

Yes, there is a "right to panorama" in most countries. However this dataset has been recorded with the _express permission_ of all the people involved. Which is different to the imagenet, where they just crawled a whole bunch of images and called it a day. Second, you need to take the "Argh its facebook, boo hiss" hat off. Then apply some critical thinking. an AR world that is connected to the physical _requires_ this kind of thing. Your device need to anticipate what you are going to do so that it can work out the probability of your need and act on it. Like Jeeves, but less able, and more annoying. As its ML, it need a massive dataset to train on. this is <0.5% of that dataset. Depending on how things are done, if facebook are first to market with a usable AR system, they will be forced to have anonymisation built in (as in remove faces at the sensor level, unless you have permission to remember). Apple will have a showy "pixelation" layer, that is mostly ineffectual, but will PR it out to make them seem like they've cured cancer. Google, if they ever manage to get back into AR will just make things cheap and let the shitty android marketplace spy on what ever they like. You will also have to remember that the power budget of these glasses is absolutely fucking tiny. All day screen, SLAM, AI and possibly music will need to all fit in to ~2-5watt hours. This means that virtually everything will need to be on device. (dropping to the cloud eats a boat load of power.) Now that's not to say that 100% accurate [if thats even possible] "diarisation" won't rip society apart. There are lots of questions that need to be answered, the problem is, tech journalists are ill equipped to ask them. Most of the teams designing the glasses are well meaning, but their targets and life experience has not equipped them to do a good job at ethics.