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I’d check out logseq [0]. Closer to roam than obsidian, but GPL, operates on plaintext files, and supports Org-mode style formatting as well as markdown. It’s g

by dopu 5y ago

I’d check out logseq [0]. Closer to roam than obsidian, but GPL, operates on plaintext files, and supports Org-mode style formatting as well as markdown. It’s getting to be fairly fully featured by now, and the development team moves fast. It’s a joy to use. [0]: https://logseq.com/ https://logseq.com/

avinassh 5y ago
This looks great! Does it expose the directory where the files are written, so that I can use Dropbox to sync? Does it support templates like how Notion does?
- dopu 5y ago
  Yep, and you choose where logseq files are stored, so you can use anything you'd like to for syncing. I will say though, I've tried using Dropbox for syncing with logseq, and it ended up creating a lot of duplicate copies due to conflicts. Have had better luck with iCloud/Syncthing (also, many people actually use Obsidian + logseq, so I believe you can take advantage of Obsidian's sync if you choose to). In any case, having better file syncing is something the logseq devs are currently working on. Logseq does not currently have templates integrated the way Notion does, but it wouldn't be difficult to programmatically create them since they're just plain markdown files. There's a plugin ecosystem for logseq now, so I think it's just a matter of time before someone writes one to generate templates.
bloopernova 5y ago
Dang, this looks amazing! It's like someone took org-roam and org-mode and made them into a fast, slick, electron app. and it supports saving files as org-mode! pretty freaking sweet.
xmprt 5y ago
I've also heard of Athens [https://github.com/athensresearch/athens#athens https://github.com/athensresearch/athens#athens] which is similar to Roam and can be self hosted. I haven't compared it to logseq though.
- dopu 5y ago
  I actually used Athens for several months and then switched over to logseq once I found it. They're quite similar in functionality, though logseq is a bit further along in my opinion (e.g., the task management and time tracking is more advanced in logseq). Which I was fine with not having in Athens. What ultimately pushed me towards switching was the fact that logseq stores notes in plaintext, whereas Athens notes are stored in these difficult to parse .bkp files. Having the ability to easily write scripts to do whatever with my notes is important for me. Also, not a technical point, but the developer of logseq seems like a really nice guy! :) (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUGV8HL-poQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUGV8HL-poQ)

by dopu 5y ago

avinassh 5y ago

This looks great! Does it expose the directory where the files are written, so that I can use Dropbox to sync? Does it support templates like how Notion does?

dopu 5y ago
Yep, and you choose where logseq files are stored, so you can use anything you'd like to for syncing. I will say though, I've tried using Dropbox for syncing with logseq, and it ended up creating a lot of duplicate copies due to conflicts. Have had better luck with iCloud/Syncthing (also, many people actually use Obsidian + logseq, so I believe you can take advantage of Obsidian's sync if you choose to). In any case, having better file syncing is something the logseq devs are currently working on. Logseq does not currently have templates integrated the way Notion does, but it wouldn't be difficult to programmatically create them since they're just plain markdown files. There's a plugin ecosystem for logseq now, so I think it's just a matter of time before someone writes one to generate templates.

bloopernova 5y ago

Dang, this looks amazing! It's like someone took org-roam and org-mode and made them into a fast, slick, electron app. and it supports saving files as org-mode! pretty freaking sweet.

xmprt 5y ago

I've also heard of Athens [https://github.com/athensresearch/athens#athens https://github.com/athensresearch/athens#athens] which is similar to Roam and can be self hosted. I haven't compared it to logseq though.

dopu 5y ago
I actually used Athens for several months and then switched over to logseq once I found it. They're quite similar in functionality, though logseq is a bit further along in my opinion (e.g., the task management and time tracking is more advanced in logseq). Which I was fine with not having in Athens. What ultimately pushed me towards switching was the fact that logseq stores notes in plaintext, whereas Athens notes are stored in these difficult to parse .bkp files. Having the ability to easily write scripts to do whatever with my notes is important for me. Also, not a technical point, but the developer of logseq seems like a really nice guy! :) (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUGV8HL-poQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUGV8HL-poQ)