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Yes if we're talking about _registries_ (like the one for .se and .nu which I work for :) ) there are not that many (I'm on mobile so hard to search for up to d

by tephra 5y ago

Yes if we're talking about _registries_ (like the one for .se and .nu which I work for :) ) there are not that many (I'm on mobile so hard to search for up to date information but in 2018 it was ~800). But if you also looked at all the _registrars_ those numbered ~2500 in 2018, but yes those numbers are for registry operators many of which outsource to donuts et al.

cookiengineer 5y ago
Touché. I now know what you meant with the previous reply. I used registries and registrar wrong in the previous comment. In my project I was focussing on getting the organization information for specific IP ranges in my project. So I dealt only with NICs and RIRs (or ICANN directly as they bootstrap the ASNs) in that case.
- tephra 5y ago
  Ah right :) May I ask what you are doing? Your original comment read as some osint fun stuff.
  - cookiengineer 5y ago
    I'm building a peer to peer Browser network that relies on trust ratios in order to find out seed/leech ratios or the trustworthiness of other peers in the sense of whether they could be malicious actors (sharing content too much, producing/modifying content too much etc). The problem I'm currently trying to solve is that I had the idea to have a pre-shipped vendor profile that contains the necessary information for IP ranges (ASN, organization, region, country, ISP/NAT etc) so that the discovery service for that doesn't have to do this and maybe I can get rid of a centralized peer discovery service completely. It's like the basic idea of an offline "map of the internet" that should be an approximation of who does what in which amount of network bandwidth and data. For example, data center IPs aren't as trustworthy or peers in the same ISP-NAT could also be censored when it comes to blocked websites, modified DNS responses etc). At this point it's a big experiment and I'm not sure whether I'm fundamentally wrong about this as I don't have any data to back it up. If you're curious, it's part of the Stealth Browser I'm building [1] and [2] [1] https://github.com/tholian-network/stealth https://github.com/tholian-network/stealth [2] https://github.com/tholian-network/stealth-vendor https://github.com/tholian-network/stealth-vendor

by tephra 5y ago

cookiengineer 5y ago

Touché. I now know what you meant with the previous reply. I used registries and registrar wrong in the previous comment. In my project I was focussing on getting the organization information for specific IP ranges in my project. So I dealt only with NICs and RIRs (or ICANN directly as they bootstrap the ASNs) in that case.

tephra 5y ago
Ah right :) May I ask what you are doing? Your original comment read as some osint fun stuff.
- cookiengineer 5y ago
  I'm building a peer to peer Browser network that relies on trust ratios in order to find out seed/leech ratios or the trustworthiness of other peers in the sense of whether they could be malicious actors (sharing content too much, producing/modifying content too much etc). The problem I'm currently trying to solve is that I had the idea to have a pre-shipped vendor profile that contains the necessary information for IP ranges (ASN, organization, region, country, ISP/NAT etc) so that the discovery service for that doesn't have to do this and maybe I can get rid of a centralized peer discovery service completely. It's like the basic idea of an offline "map of the internet" that should be an approximation of who does what in which amount of network bandwidth and data. For example, data center IPs aren't as trustworthy or peers in the same ISP-NAT could also be censored when it comes to blocked websites, modified DNS responses etc). At this point it's a big experiment and I'm not sure whether I'm fundamentally wrong about this as I don't have any data to back it up. If you're curious, it's part of the Stealth Browser I'm building [1] and [2] [1] https://github.com/tholian-network/stealth https://github.com/tholian-network/stealth [2] https://github.com/tholian-network/stealth-vendor https://github.com/tholian-network/stealth-vendor