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I don’t believe this, if you push yourself to bike through a forrest, run until you’re out of breath, talk a long walk after work… You’ll come back with more en

I don’t believe this, if you push yourself to bike through a forrest, run until you’re out of breath, talk a long walk after work… You’ll come back with more energy then when you spend that time on the couch binging Squid Game. There is just no doubt in my mind about this. But it may start out feeling like a diet for the mind, that I am willing to believe. But like with a healthy diet you’ll benefit immensely over time. But it requires discipline.

rolisz 5y ago
I do workout regularly and I do go for walks. But like a diet, the effect is long term, not immediate.
manmal 5y ago
Human metabolism, and also the brain, needs rest after exertion in order to be able to do more work. Some people have it easier in that regard, but everybody has their own limits. Discipline in that context means pushing limits, which is not advisable long-term. Every system eventually fails when put under too much ongoing stress - burnout (/overtraining) is one of the lesser problems this can create.
- teekert 5y ago
  Pushing limits in terms of the brain is binging garbage in stead of looking at trees, listening to birds. Pushing the limits of a body is sitting in a chair for 8 hours, barely moving, in stead of walking around doing stuff with your hands, taking a swim, climbing a tree picking some nuts. We should make no mistakes about what the natural actions and states of our minds and bodies are.
  - manmal 5y ago
    Sounds like good advice for people who work out of a cabin in or near the woods, and probably don’t have kids or a partner with their own schedule.
akgerber 5y ago
I took a 60 mile bike ride yesterday in perfect weather, much of it on a beautiful forest road, and afterwards I was exhausted and it took a huge amount of effort even just to feed myself, and it was totally impossible to summon any motivation to spend 5 minutes to do the dishes afterward. I've been riding a bike for a decades, have crossed continents by bike, and have bike commuted my entire career pre-COVID. I slept pretty well and feel healthy and energized today and doing the dishes was easy this morning, but it's totally contrary to my entire life experience to claim that doing something physically tiring gives you more energy afterward. Not that doing nothing all the time feels good— humans just don't have unlimited capacity for output. Taking a leisurely morning walk (or a moderate-distance bike commute) certainly gets my day started on the right foot, but going harder faster longer at physical activity makes me physically tired and less capable of doing other things.
- TuringNYC 5y ago
  I'll bet there is a curve. My own experiences cycling suggest that a little bit isnt helpful. A good amount is energizing, and too much is exhausting. For me those attachment and detachment points are probably [0;8;20]. Your mileage will absolutely vary. A great exercise would be to find some causality from Strava data and git commit, both of which I have fairly extensive data on.
- cafard 5y ago
  Agreed. I have always found that a long run left me tired and a bit sleepy for a while afterward.

rolisz 5y ago

I do workout regularly and I do go for walks. But like a diet, the effect is long term, not immediate.

manmal 5y ago

Human metabolism, and also the brain, needs rest after exertion in order to be able to do more work. Some people have it easier in that regard, but everybody has their own limits. Discipline in that context means pushing limits, which is not advisable long-term. Every system eventually fails when put under too much ongoing stress - burnout (/overtraining) is one of the lesser problems this can create.

teekert 5y ago
Pushing limits in terms of the brain is binging garbage in stead of looking at trees, listening to birds. Pushing the limits of a body is sitting in a chair for 8 hours, barely moving, in stead of walking around doing stuff with your hands, taking a swim, climbing a tree picking some nuts. We should make no mistakes about what the natural actions and states of our minds and bodies are.
- manmal 5y ago
  Sounds like good advice for people who work out of a cabin in or near the woods, and probably don’t have kids or a partner with their own schedule.

akgerber 5y ago

I took a 60 mile bike ride yesterday in perfect weather, much of it on a beautiful forest road, and afterwards I was exhausted and it took a huge amount of effort even just to feed myself, and it was totally impossible to summon any motivation to spend 5 minutes to do the dishes afterward. I've been riding a bike for a decades, have crossed continents by bike, and have bike commuted my entire career pre-COVID. I slept pretty well and feel healthy and energized today and doing the dishes was easy this morning, but it's totally contrary to my entire life experience to claim that doing something physically tiring gives you more energy afterward. Not that doing nothing all the time feels good— humans just don't have unlimited capacity for output. Taking a leisurely morning walk (or a moderate-distance bike commute) certainly gets my day started on the right foot, but going harder faster longer at physical activity makes me physically tired and less capable of doing other things.

TuringNYC 5y ago
I'll bet there is a curve. My own experiences cycling suggest that a little bit isnt helpful. A good amount is energizing, and too much is exhausting. For me those attachment and detachment points are probably [0;8;20]. Your mileage will absolutely vary. A great exercise would be to find some causality from Strava data and git commit, both of which I have fairly extensive data on.
cafard 5y ago
Agreed. I have always found that a long run left me tired and a bit sleepy for a while afterward.