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> Cornell researchers recently asked the question: Why do they still not let you vote down a song? They do. "skip" does things other than skip the song. They
by jstummbillig 5y ago
> Cornell researchers recently asked the question: Why do they still not let you vote down a song?
They do. "skip" does things other than skip the song.
They also had a dedicated dislike button and removed it years ago. Apparently what they are doing now works better.
> Specifically, they demonstrated that a listener is roughly 20 percent more likely to “like” a song if the algorithm is trained on 400,000 likes and dislikes, compared to an algorithm trained only on that amount of likes.
Building a naive recommendation engine and giving it more good data – paid for, and also not factoring in the difference in time spent acquiring it – will obviously yield better results in a direct comparison. Striking a comparison to what Spotify is doing is pretty naive.
- jorvi 5y ago> They do. "skip" does things other than skip the song. This seems very unlikely as some people enjoy listening to just certain parts of a song.
- owlmirror 5y agoDo you know if the algorithm takes that into account? I also became suspect of the behavior of the skip button, I sometimes skip songs of artists I really like and could observe that I did not get them recommended anymore until I explictly played a song of them. Of course this could be just random luck but it made me careful to skip my favorite songs and instead I open the playlist and select the next song.
- sasha_at_piki 5y agoThe algo simply bans the songs you dislike. Skipping might just mean you are not in the mood for that song right now. I'm the creator of Piki, the Cornell Tech app mentioned in the article. Give it a try, if you want next level recommendations https://piki.page.link/Rng5 https://piki.page.link/Rng5
- heed 5y agoWhen you remove a song from one of the auto-generated playlists (Discover Weekly / Release Radar) the app requires you to specify a reason, “I don’t like this song/artist”. Isn’t this effectively a dislike button? Or is this input not used in playlist generation?
- sasha_at_piki 5y agoDislikes are not used in a fundamental way other than banning this song from future recommendations. I'm the creator of Piki, the Cornell Tech app mentioned in the article. Give it a try, if you want next level recommendations https://piki.page.link/Rng5 https://piki.page.link/Rng5
- sasha_at_piki 5y agoI'm the creator of Piki, the Cornell Tech app mentioned in the article. Give it a try, if you want next level recommendations https://piki.page.link/Rng5 https://piki.page.link/Rng5