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Imgur does this, too. Actually pretty smart from the platform's PoV. Just delete or "shadow" comments (or whatever you call it, when you can see your comments b

by bserge 5y ago

Imgur does this, too. Actually pretty smart from the platform's PoV. Just delete or "shadow" comments (or whatever you call it, when you can see your comments but no one else can) that contain certain words. No need for moderation, people still use your garbage, while not being able to influence anyone else or affect your advertising.

8eye 5y ago
it’s very sad. on a somewhat related topic, i think some media tech firms are violating this law https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payola https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payola but indirectly when an algorithm censors one form of content over another, then it is indirectly supporting the alternative. which is tuned based on biases, those biases pad the pockets of like minded people within their social sphere, their circle of influence. but the perception is there that this is what everyone wants, so a percentage of people (competition in many cases) gets censored. if this was like a small corner bar and someone was advertising their business inside someone else’s bar, then yeah i get it, your house, your rules, but censoring someone on a platform that is larger than many nations put together seems dangerous.
- rmbyrro 5y ago
  But they're not being paid to do so, like this Law establishes. Unless they're doing it to bbenefit content that are more likely to generate ad revenue. But they already have the freedom to do so with their algos...
wcoenen 5y ago
Hacker news also does shadow banning.
- saagarjha 5y ago
  At least you can view them with showdead enabled…
- mellosouls 5y ago
  Only in some very limited circumstances apparently. We don't shadowban established accounts—we tell people we're banning them and why : The exceptions are spammers and serial trolls. Some previous notes: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=by%3Adang%20shadowban&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?query=by%3Adang%20shadowban&sort=byD...

by bserge 5y ago

8eye 5y ago

it’s very sad. on a somewhat related topic, i think some media tech firms are violating this law https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payola https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payola but indirectly when an algorithm censors one form of content over another, then it is indirectly supporting the alternative. which is tuned based on biases, those biases pad the pockets of like minded people within their social sphere, their circle of influence. but the perception is there that this is what everyone wants, so a percentage of people (competition in many cases) gets censored. if this was like a small corner bar and someone was advertising their business inside someone else’s bar, then yeah i get it, your house, your rules, but censoring someone on a platform that is larger than many nations put together seems dangerous.

rmbyrro 5y ago
But they're not being paid to do so, like this Law establishes. Unless they're doing it to bbenefit content that are more likely to generate ad revenue. But they already have the freedom to do so with their algos...

wcoenen 5y ago

Hacker news also does shadow banning.

saagarjha 5y ago
At least you can view them with showdead enabled…
mellosouls 5y ago
Only in some very limited circumstances apparently. We don't shadowban established accounts—we tell people we're banning them and why : The exceptions are spammers and serial trolls. Some previous notes: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=by%3Adang%20shadowban&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?query=by%3Adang%20shadowban&sort=byD...