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It's always amazing to me, how so many techies, who personally know how overhyped AI is (it's amazing at moving you from 0 to maybe 50% solution, then with tons
by justapassenger 5y ago
It's always amazing to me, how so many techies, who personally know how overhyped AI is (it's amazing at moving you from 0 to maybe 50% solution, then with tons of extra work, maybe to 80%, but to 100%? just not possible), are buying FSD-hype claims from Tesla.
- ajross 5y agoIt seems very unlikely that this was a bug in the "AI" layer. The object in question was a streetlight, which Teslas see with effective perfection already, in shipping versions of the autopilot. There is no doubt at all that a Tesla can recognize that object. The best analysis I've seen is that this is an imaging problem. The lamp in the shadow didn't have enough contrast to show up and be presented to the ML recognizers (and, probably, that when it did it was too late to see the object in totality and there wasn't a recognizer for "vertical pole in the very near field").
- rasz 5y agoIf you see a streetlight post and then sun bounces off of another cars window and momentarily blinds you - did that street post stop existing? If you crash into it, did you crash because you got blinded? or because you "forgot" what you kept seeing a second ago? Is closing your eyes altering reality?
- ajross 5y agoI'm not following. Persistence of the model is a different problem. FSD does that too, there are lots of examples. The issue here seems to be that the car never saw the post at all (you can see on the screen that it never gets rendered, though it's for the cross traffic and I don't know whether FSD beta draws lights that it thinks aren't for you).