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Arguments for & against aside, who the frell does the EU think it is that they're going to try to bully the internet into doing what they want? Incredibly rage
by rektide 5y ago
Arguments for & against aside, who the frell does the EU think it is that they're going to try to bully the internet into doing what they want?
Incredibly rage inducing era we're entering that after decades of the internet functioning relatively well, via good technical agreement mostly, the bloody bureaucrats of XYZ keep showing up & telling the entire planet how they have to operate. I cant stand the entire internet being ongoingly bullied around whenever this country or that gets some funny notion. I wish we saw more of the national &c threats to disconnect various services or systems go through, wish we saw less negotiation with the random governments of the world, wish we saw services that valued who they are & the right of their network users more than they feared the hundreds and hundreds of arms of bureaocracy that constantly threaten them. Let yourself get disconnected damn it, someone make a stand, stop agreeing to every demand and let these fools punch themselves in the face. If this nation cant abide by the informal rules of the internet too damned bad for them. They've gotta figure outnwhatbthey want to do about ut themselves; they cant unilaterally keep redefining thr rules of the road for everyone.
The right to be forgotten is another prime example of colossal sovereign overreach. After a decade in the courts it seems like, in spite of much much much belly aching & shitstirring, nations generally have to accept that they cant legislate what contentnis available in other territories, but for a while it seemed like the dastardly rich were going to be able to demand any coverage they didnt like get disappeared from the internet entirely.
At some point we need to stop treating politicians & poltician consequneces as things to adjust to, & start telling these nations off. The internetnis more important than your territory.
- beebeepka 5y agoThis comment is triggering my whataboutism reflex. So many words, yet the real motives behind this rant remain unclear. If you operate in the EU, you are expected to follow the local rules. Not sure why would you object to that. I mean, I have my suspicions but I'd wait for a clarification before accusing you of exceptionalism I wonder what you have to say about your country (US, I bet) bending most of the world to its will via the very real threat of violence.
- rektide 5y agoWhat's unclear? My motivation is obvious as day. I don't want a tightly coupled world where random spots on the earth get to tell the entire internet how they have to operate. It would be so easy to let endless rules beset us, would be so natural if the greatest, vastest, most available frontier humanity has available to it got snuffed out, bricked up by each & every law someone wanted to make. there's no signs of hope. nations are going to be endlessly greedy, demanding end to frontiers forever. even projects like gdpr, which seemingly help citizens defend themselves against big powers that be online, still do little to create positive-liberties, positive-rights of citizens: a citizen with a VPS can't do anything more than they could yesterday. capital example of things getting worse: here's an article today talking about the UK maybe trying to ban anonymous commenting. UK bans Hacker News! what is ever going to stop the removal of capabilities & powers of individuals by large institutions? what hope is there? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28898249 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28898249 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/priti-patel-david-amess-social-media-b1939775.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/priti-patel-d...