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For a junior, "unrelated" work experience all counts IMHO. You can't ding some just starting out in a first role because they haven't already had a job other t
by mattlondon 5y ago
For a junior, "unrelated" work experience all counts IMHO. You can't ding some just starting out in a first role because they haven't already had a job other than flipping burgers.
At least someone with unrelated experience has shown that they have some experience of holding down a job and the responsibility that goes with it, and can apply themselves doing something mindless if they have to (most intern or junior candidates I interview these days all want to solve cancer with machine learning on day 1 in their role - someone without a real-world reality-check who has only done a series of silver-spoon elite internships might get disgruntled when they are given the shit work as a junior)
Likewise some people cannot afford internships - they need to get paying work to pay bills and can't have the luxury of doing unpaid/expenses-only/etc work, or have other reasons like care responsibilities etc.
With respect, please check your biases and give people a chance.
</manager at a BigCo that also rejects huge numbers of applicants>
- curiousllama 5y agoI’m pretty sure that comment is saying the red flag is NOT having an unrelated job (given they don’t have tech experience, which many understandably won’t). Def ambiguous tho
- jdavis703 5y agoYeah that’s what I meant. You need some sort of work experience. Flipping burgers, doing tech support or a SWE intern. Having no experience is the red flag.
- anthuswilliams 5y agoI interpreted the parent's post to mean they are encountering resumes which list neither internships NOR unrelated work experience.
- _fat_santa 5y agoWhen I was in college I was asked to review a few resume's for some fellow students. A number of the resume's I saw that no work experience whatsoever. I remember asking the students like hey did you forget to include your work experience or something and they all told me that they basically never had a job before, no flipping burgers, no internship, nada. It sounds unbelievable but it happens, alot. It's one thing when all your experience so far has been flipping burgers or driving Uber, but it's another when they literally have never had a job their entire life.
- secondaryacct 5y agoYeah my parents kicked me into work at 14 up to 18 just for the sake of understanding what it is and it was invaluable in my first interview for a big boy job: the fact I started at 14 to earn some money and was proud of it and could even give recommendations to deal with clients (worked in an auction store carrying furniture for people every weekend of my teenage years despite having rich parents) seriously impressed the boss and all his worries about me not coming from a top uni whatever were compensated by my understanding of his own suffering. As a junior, the best best way to pass an interview is understanding you're a cost and accepting experience is part of the pay. Any sign of you expecting to be "paid your due" or "resisting undue exploitation" is an immediate ulcer inducing stress for the hiring person "omg he knows nothing, will take months to start producing above his cost, and he's already talking like a diva". Leave after 6 months if you must, telling the boss you cant possibly survive