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How did you write all of that and not address the fact that ventilators typically use air with added oxygen, not pure oxygen?

taxicabjesus 5y ago
Thanks for the feedback. I am not overly familiar with ventilation protocols, I just understand that some ventilation strategies are more aggressive than others. I will edit to clarify. This is a great article that says that ventilators have been studied for pneumonia and found to not help improve survival outcomes: https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/Ventilators-aren-t-a-panacea-for-a-pandemic-like-coronavirus https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/Ventilators-aren-t-a-pan...
- maxerickson 5y ago
  Why would you make any claims about medical practice without understanding the 5 minute basics? You talk about refusing ventilation to survive hospitalization, but your whole premise (toxicity of pure oxygen) has nothing to do with modern medical practice!
  - taxicabjesus 5y ago
    > your whole premise (toxicity of pure oxygen) My premise is that any amount of supplemental oxygen without the antidote for oxygen toxicity worsens outcomes. For example, I mentioned how doctors are realizing that COPD patients don't necessarily benefit from supplemental oxygen. (Edit: editing my piece I understood what you meant. I have reworded that opening paragraph to say "Modern doctors sometimes decide their patient's tissues are low on oxygen and prescribe various amounts of supplemental oxygen.") > modern medical practice! Aggressive use of oxygenation has been studied and is consistently found to worsens patient outcomes [0]. There should be no controversy, but aggressive oxygenation is a common treatment in modern medical practice. Maybe you know why this is the case? [0] Mortality/morbidity: acutely ill adults liberal vs. conservative Oxygen Tx(2018) (thelancet.com) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22993262 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22993262

taxicabjesus 5y ago

Thanks for the feedback. I am not overly familiar with ventilation protocols, I just understand that some ventilation strategies are more aggressive than others. I will edit to clarify. This is a great article that says that ventilators have been studied for pneumonia and found to not help improve survival outcomes: https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/Ventilators-aren-t-a-panacea-for-a-pandemic-like-coronavirus https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/Ventilators-aren-t-a-pan...

maxerickson 5y ago
Why would you make any claims about medical practice without understanding the 5 minute basics? You talk about refusing ventilation to survive hospitalization, but your whole premise (toxicity of pure oxygen) has nothing to do with modern medical practice!
- taxicabjesus 5y ago
  > your whole premise (toxicity of pure oxygen) My premise is that any amount of supplemental oxygen without the antidote for oxygen toxicity worsens outcomes. For example, I mentioned how doctors are realizing that COPD patients don't necessarily benefit from supplemental oxygen. (Edit: editing my piece I understood what you meant. I have reworded that opening paragraph to say "Modern doctors sometimes decide their patient's tissues are low on oxygen and prescribe various amounts of supplemental oxygen.") > modern medical practice! Aggressive use of oxygenation has been studied and is consistently found to worsens patient outcomes [0]. There should be no controversy, but aggressive oxygenation is a common treatment in modern medical practice. Maybe you know why this is the case? [0] Mortality/morbidity: acutely ill adults liberal vs. conservative Oxygen Tx(2018) (thelancet.com) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22993262 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22993262