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Isn’t COVID likely to be the #1 killer of most professions in 2020/2021, since most professions are mercifully not that dangerous anymore? LEO isn’t in the top

by dpeck 5y ago

Isn’t COVID likely to be the #1 killer of most professions in 2020/2021, since most professions are mercifully not that dangerous anymore? LEO isn’t in the top 10 of the life threatening profession list in US, https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/27/the-10-most-dangerous-jobs-in-america-according-to-bls-data.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/27/the-10-most-dangerous-jobs-i.... I’d wager COVID was also the #1 killer of retail clerks, florists, and probably software engineers for the last two years as well.

throw_away 5y ago
Was curious & looks like COVID is the #1 killer of fire fighters as well: https://apps.usfa.fema.gov/firefighter-fatalities/fatalityData/incidentDataReport?deathYear=2021&page=1&max=10&offset=0 https://apps.usfa.fema.gov/firefighter-fatalities/fatalityDa...
consumer451 5y ago
You are correct. IIRC, LEOs are around #16 after loggers, fishermen, and bartenders. But considering the amount of push back on vaccine mandates, including threats of walkouts and mass retirement, the effects of politicizing the vaccine and COVID in general are truly stunning. This is what was significant about this to me. edit: I see your edit with the source now, thanks.
pstuart 5y ago
Cops are worshipped by society because "they put their life on the line". This, like the link you shared, should disabuse people of that notion. Unfortunately it will change nothing.
- honkycat 5y ago
  They are needed to enforce property rights and political agendas ( war on drugs aka the war on the poor) nothing more. They do not have a duty to protect you and are often working to directly harm people.
  - postalrat 5y ago
    Clearly you have an agenda of your own.
    - nickpeterson 5y ago
      How is truth an agenda?
      - postalrat 5y ago
        I'll let you know when I see a truth.
        mingus88 5y ago
        It is established legal precedent that the police have no duty to protect or serve the public https://www.barneslawllp.com/blog/police-not-required-protect https://www.barneslawllp.com/blog/police-not-required-protec...
  - Clubber 5y ago
    Also revenue generation via citations and civil asset forfeiture, which is asset seizure without due process that is highly abused by many departments to supplement budgets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United...
anonporridge 5y ago
It would make some amount of sense. It seems like the other most common killers, heart disease and cancer, tend to take you out with more predictability and on a longer time scale (barring surprise heart attacks). I would expect that a large percentage of people dying of these diseases leave their jobs (voluntarily or laid off) before they die of it, making them less common causes of death for active professionals. On the other hand, covid hits people fast and hard. One day you're fine and working and the next week you're on a ventilator, so these deaths are more likely to happen to people still actively employed. And we see exactly this reflected in this data. There were 15 heart attacks and no reported cancer deaths, and 231 covid deaths in 2021, even though the overall death rate of covid is comparable to those two. Nobody stays on the job when they know they have a few months left to live.
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by dpeck 5y ago

throw_away 5y ago

Was curious & looks like COVID is the #1 killer of fire fighters as well: https://apps.usfa.fema.gov/firefighter-fatalities/fatalityData/incidentDataReport?deathYear=2021&page=1&max=10&offset=0 https://apps.usfa.fema.gov/firefighter-fatalities/fatalityDa...

consumer451 5y ago

You are correct. IIRC, LEOs are around #16 after loggers, fishermen, and bartenders. But considering the amount of push back on vaccine mandates, including threats of walkouts and mass retirement, the effects of politicizing the vaccine and COVID in general are truly stunning. This is what was significant about this to me. edit: I see your edit with the source now, thanks.

pstuart 5y ago

Cops are worshipped by society because "they put their life on the line". This, like the link you shared, should disabuse people of that notion. Unfortunately it will change nothing.

honkycat 5y ago
They are needed to enforce property rights and political agendas ( war on drugs aka the war on the poor) nothing more. They do not have a duty to protect you and are often working to directly harm people.
- postalrat 5y ago
  Clearly you have an agenda of your own.
  - nickpeterson 5y ago
    How is truth an agenda?
    - postalrat 5y ago
      I'll let you know when I see a truth.
      - mingus88 5y ago
        It is established legal precedent that the police have no duty to protect or serve the public https://www.barneslawllp.com/blog/police-not-required-protect https://www.barneslawllp.com/blog/police-not-required-protec...
- Clubber 5y ago
  Also revenue generation via citations and civil asset forfeiture, which is asset seizure without due process that is highly abused by many departments to supplement budgets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United...

anonporridge 5y ago

It would make some amount of sense. It seems like the other most common killers, heart disease and cancer, tend to take you out with more predictability and on a longer time scale (barring surprise heart attacks). I would expect that a large percentage of people dying of these diseases leave their jobs (voluntarily or laid off) before they die of it, making them less common causes of death for active professionals. On the other hand, covid hits people fast and hard. One day you're fine and working and the next week you're on a ventilator, so these deaths are more likely to happen to people still actively employed. And we see exactly this reflected in this data. There were 15 heart attacks and no reported cancer deaths, and 231 covid deaths in 2021, even though the overall death rate of covid is comparable to those two. Nobody stays on the job when they know they have a few months left to live.

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