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I think there can be truth to both. Consider the fact that it may seem easy to you because it's almost second nature in a sense where you're unaware consciously

I think there can be truth to both. Consider the fact that it may seem easy to you because it's almost second nature in a sense where you're unaware consciously of how much it would take an average person to learn what you're doing from scratch. >No one gets paid for working hard, they get paid for demand of their skill and expetience relative to supply. I think that's generally true, but that doesn't mean it doesn't take a lot of initial hard work to gain the skills and experience necessary to work "easily" ofcourse there's some people where those skills came easily first anyways but I think those are generally at the tail end of the curve.

_8j50 5y ago
Learning is not work though. Hard work to learn skills is not the same as the job itself being hard for skilled people. Compare that with unskilled work like manual labor where you still might need to work hard to develop skills but the work is also hard and they pay is very low. Too much supply due to low barrier of entry.
- ineedasername 5y ago
  I think under that definition, wouldn't all work be easy? The hard part is learning, after that it's all easy because you already have the skill. The only hard work that would be left out is work that is literally hard I'm it's physical demands. Even then, the mental portion would be easy. I may be missing a subtlety of what you mean. Can you give an example of a hard job?
  - _8j50 5y ago
    Most jobs actuallu. You are confusing familiarity and adaptation with ease. Yes, physically demanding jobs like brick layer are a good example, emotionally demanding jobs like EMT/paramedic too or prison guard, bomb tech, lineman,etc... some jobs due to the difficulty, people who work those jobs have high mortality,suicide, disability and other rates that indicate the body and mind deteriorating as a direct result of the job. Office jobs pay more to the most part but they are not all cushy either. No amount of learning or adaptation can make a hard job easy, only more tolerable. You will sacrifice the same amount in exchange for wages. I did not imply any subtlety, I worked somewhat difficult blue collar jobs and now I have an amazing office job where i can even work from home! I assumed others would also understand the difference. To give you a more first hand example, I troubleshooted networking problems sitting in a nice office and I did the same (layer 1) crawing in attics, outdoors, climbing poles, jumping fences and more in 105+ humid weather and even that was considered easy compared to harder jobs, I was good at both jobs (according to others/management) and I worked more or less the same hours. The difference is night and day. I am more comfortable and much less stressed out when in an offic le job. Even in the office job world, the more I progressed in my career the more rewarding work I was exposed to. Less stress, hardship, more conmfort and pay. No hidden meaning, just an observation.
    - ineedasername 5y ago
      A very good explanation, thank you. I didn't think there was a hidden meaning, just wasn't sure what you meant. I will say that I think you left out a category though. You covered physically & emotionally difficult jobs, but not cognitively difficult jobs. Some jobs will always keep a person on the edge of their mental capabilities, despite being office-bound.

_8j50 5y ago

Learning is not work though. Hard work to learn skills is not the same as the job itself being hard for skilled people. Compare that with unskilled work like manual labor where you still might need to work hard to develop skills but the work is also hard and they pay is very low. Too much supply due to low barrier of entry.

ineedasername 5y ago
I think under that definition, wouldn't all work be easy? The hard part is learning, after that it's all easy because you already have the skill. The only hard work that would be left out is work that is literally hard I'm it's physical demands. Even then, the mental portion would be easy. I may be missing a subtlety of what you mean. Can you give an example of a hard job?
- _8j50 5y ago
  Most jobs actuallu. You are confusing familiarity and adaptation with ease. Yes, physically demanding jobs like brick layer are a good example, emotionally demanding jobs like EMT/paramedic too or prison guard, bomb tech, lineman,etc... some jobs due to the difficulty, people who work those jobs have high mortality,suicide, disability and other rates that indicate the body and mind deteriorating as a direct result of the job. Office jobs pay more to the most part but they are not all cushy either. No amount of learning or adaptation can make a hard job easy, only more tolerable. You will sacrifice the same amount in exchange for wages. I did not imply any subtlety, I worked somewhat difficult blue collar jobs and now I have an amazing office job where i can even work from home! I assumed others would also understand the difference. To give you a more first hand example, I troubleshooted networking problems sitting in a nice office and I did the same (layer 1) crawing in attics, outdoors, climbing poles, jumping fences and more in 105+ humid weather and even that was considered easy compared to harder jobs, I was good at both jobs (according to others/management) and I worked more or less the same hours. The difference is night and day. I am more comfortable and much less stressed out when in an offic le job. Even in the office job world, the more I progressed in my career the more rewarding work I was exposed to. Less stress, hardship, more conmfort and pay. No hidden meaning, just an observation.
  - ineedasername 5y ago
    A very good explanation, thank you. I didn't think there was a hidden meaning, just wasn't sure what you meant. I will say that I think you left out a category though. You covered physically & emotionally difficult jobs, but not cognitively difficult jobs. Some jobs will always keep a person on the edge of their mental capabilities, despite being office-bound.