4 ms·

I totally get it and agree that there are so many problems in California's government. With that said, please show me a state that is better run compared to Cal

I totally get it and agree that there are so many problems in California's government. With that said, please show me a state that is better run compared to California. I am genuinely curious to learn how we can do better.

rsj_hn 5y ago
US News does a ranking, taking into account infrastructure, education, fiscal health, crime, health care, etc. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings?int=top_nav_Overall_Rankings https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings?int=top_nav... Their top states are: Washington Minnesota Utah New Hampshire Idaho Nebraska Virginia Wisconsin Massachusetts Florida I am not going to die on the hill that this is the best ranking system. For example, every benefit has a cost, but fiscal health is only one factor whereas health care, infrastructure, education are three factors so the rankings are biased towards benefits rather than cost-effictive benefits, but it's still a decent starting point.
- novok 5y ago
  I would like to add that wash is a better run state. They build more housing, the roads are in a better state despite worse weather, liberal politics, no state income tax and property tax is lower when you buy a house new, while in CA the rate can get to %1.5 effective, while it's around %1 in king county, doing this all while you have no state income tax.
- ZeroGravitas 5y ago
  The individual metric that California fails badly on, coming 50th is this one: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/opportunity https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/opportunity But I have no idea what it's measuring based on that blurb. Oh, if you click it breaks it down to "affordability", "equality" and "economic opportunity" of which it does poorly on the first two. So basically, California's main weakness is that too many rich people live there.
  - rsj_hn 5y ago
    > So basically, California's main weakness is that too many rich people live there. California is a state where median house price is $760K, whereas median household income is $75K. If you look at that number and say "Well, clearly that's because too many rich people live there", then I'm not sure what benefit is obtained from looking at any data at all.
    - ZeroGravitas 5y ago
      That's almost exactly what I think. Sucks for the low wage earners who can't relocate but its a fairly predictable outcome of lots of well paid immigrants (inter and intra-national) arriving. At the urban scale this is called gentrification.

rsj_hn 5y ago

US News does a ranking, taking into account infrastructure, education, fiscal health, crime, health care, etc. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings?int=top_nav_Overall_Rankings https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings?int=top_nav... Their top states are: Washington Minnesota Utah New Hampshire Idaho Nebraska Virginia Wisconsin Massachusetts Florida I am not going to die on the hill that this is the best ranking system. For example, every benefit has a cost, but fiscal health is only one factor whereas health care, infrastructure, education are three factors so the rankings are biased towards benefits rather than cost-effictive benefits, but it's still a decent starting point.

novok 5y ago
I would like to add that wash is a better run state. They build more housing, the roads are in a better state despite worse weather, liberal politics, no state income tax and property tax is lower when you buy a house new, while in CA the rate can get to %1.5 effective, while it's around %1 in king county, doing this all while you have no state income tax.
ZeroGravitas 5y ago
The individual metric that California fails badly on, coming 50th is this one: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/opportunity https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/opportunity But I have no idea what it's measuring based on that blurb. Oh, if you click it breaks it down to "affordability", "equality" and "economic opportunity" of which it does poorly on the first two. So basically, California's main weakness is that too many rich people live there.
- rsj_hn 5y ago
  > So basically, California's main weakness is that too many rich people live there. California is a state where median house price is $760K, whereas median household income is $75K. If you look at that number and say "Well, clearly that's because too many rich people live there", then I'm not sure what benefit is obtained from looking at any data at all.
  - ZeroGravitas 5y ago
    That's almost exactly what I think. Sucks for the low wage earners who can't relocate but its a fairly predictable outcome of lots of well paid immigrants (inter and intra-national) arriving. At the urban scale this is called gentrification.