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There's plenty of jurisdictions where "pasting a scanned signature into a pdf" doesn't produce a legally valid signature. Germany requires some signing softwar

There's plenty of jurisdictions where "pasting a scanned signature into a pdf" doesn't produce a legally valid signature. Germany requires some signing software for pdfs - though printed-signed-scanned documents are also legally valid signatures

vlovich123 5y ago
Show me someone who can tell the difference between pasting a signature in a pdf vs printed-signed-scanned? There was a legislature in America that tried to define pi as 3 so irrational laws are not surprising.
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- jackson1442 5y ago
  Aside the point but I can generally tell. With PDF signatures they’re either too smooth on the lines (that’s what mine is) or there’s some artifacting on the signature.
- Al-Khwarizmi 5y ago
  If you go that route, most people can't tell the difference between a person's signature and a different person faking their signature. By the way, in Spain printed-signed-scanned wouldn't be legally valid either, unless a notary has seen the original and can certify that it coincides with their own handwritten signature. Otherwise it's either original handwritten signature, or digital signature in a digital PDF file, or printed digital signature with a secure validation code that you can verify in some URL.
- WarOnPrivacy 5y ago
  > Show me someone who can tell the difference between pasting a signature in a pdf vs printed-signed-scanned? One challenge with potentially invalid documents - when agreements go south and disgruntled employees get a free wrench to toss into the works. Another motivator is not wanting to risk cheesing off judges. source: Once prepped federal cases
garaetjjte 5y ago
>doesn't produce a legally valid signature Is there any place where it does? It seems ridiculous to me to treat copy-pasted bitmap same as real signature.
jsilence 5y ago
Probably true. The point is that most of these "need a real signature" requirements are arbitrary and inhouse. Not really legal requirements. So the processes could easily be done without.

vlovich123 5y ago

Show me someone who can tell the difference between pasting a signature in a pdf vs printed-signed-scanned? There was a legislature in America that tried to define pi as 3 so irrational laws are not surprising.

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jackson1442 5y ago
Aside the point but I can generally tell. With PDF signatures they’re either too smooth on the lines (that’s what mine is) or there’s some artifacting on the signature.
Al-Khwarizmi 5y ago
If you go that route, most people can't tell the difference between a person's signature and a different person faking their signature. By the way, in Spain printed-signed-scanned wouldn't be legally valid either, unless a notary has seen the original and can certify that it coincides with their own handwritten signature. Otherwise it's either original handwritten signature, or digital signature in a digital PDF file, or printed digital signature with a secure validation code that you can verify in some URL.
WarOnPrivacy 5y ago
> Show me someone who can tell the difference between pasting a signature in a pdf vs printed-signed-scanned? One challenge with potentially invalid documents - when agreements go south and disgruntled employees get a free wrench to toss into the works. Another motivator is not wanting to risk cheesing off judges. source: Once prepped federal cases

garaetjjte 5y ago

>doesn't produce a legally valid signature Is there any place where it does? It seems ridiculous to me to treat copy-pasted bitmap same as real signature.

jsilence 5y ago

Probably true. The point is that most of these "need a real signature" requirements are arbitrary and inhouse. Not really legal requirements. So the processes could easily be done without.