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Brothers LaserJet. No malware, no adware, no funky drivers; just colored, WiFi, LP-protocol, multi-tray PCL and PS support. Best thing since sliced bread.
by egberts1 5y ago
Brothers LaserJet.
No malware, no adware, no funky drivers; just colored, WiFi, LP-protocol, multi-tray PCL and PS support.
Best thing since sliced bread.
- quickthrower2 5y agoBrother sells overpriced refills but there are off brand replacements about half the price. They also report ink run out on starter cartridges when it hasn’t. I think the only ethical printers are 3D ones.
- okl 5y agoSee my tip here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28889001 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28889001 Vigorously shaking the cartridge might also help sometimes. And regarding starter cartridges, you might need a reset gear: https://cartridgeamerica.com/ctg/brother-toner-chips.php https://cartridgeamerica.com/ctg/brother-toner-chips.php
- int_19h 5y agoHave you tried resetting the counter? The procedure is different on different models, but it goes something like this: https://www.inkhub.com.au/ink/brother-mfc-l3750cdw-toner-reset https://www.inkhub.com.au/ink/brother-mfc-l3750cdw-toner-res...
- aesh2Xa1 5y agoRecent firmware updates have disabled this workaround. Brother has joined the malfeasance club.
- shadilay 5y agoWhen did they do this? I reset my cartidge last year.
- quickthrower2 5y agoI have a mechanical mod to do that … but point still stands the default isn’t good.
- matheusmoreira 5y ago> no funky drivers Even on Linux?
- tyfon 5y agoCan't speak for OPs printer but my brother just uses IPP and a PPD definition file, all supported out of the box with cups.
- xfalcox 5y agoYes and it works out if the box in any modern distro.
- pnutjam 5y agoso, anything but redhat?
- ineedtosleep 5y agoBrother printers, from my experience, will just work automatically -- depending on your distro. If you need drivers, they do have a Linux installer as well. I've used the installer before and definitely not even a fraction as scummy as Canon/HP driver installs.
- formerly_proven 5y agoThese understand standard PCL (and even PDF, somewhat) - you really only need to point CUPS at the printer's IP and tell it what the page size is.
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- heavyset_go 5y agoPretty much every printer released since 2010 has IPP Everywhere support, which allows for driverless printing on any platform including Linux.
- matheusmoreira 5y ago
- shostack 5y agoYou know a market is bad when a company can lead the space simply with the platform of "we won't scam you."
- ouid 5y agoKinda sounds like the whole economy though.
- tonyedgecombe 5y agoIn some ways we bring it on ourselves by being such cheapskates. People post reviews in the app stores because they think $2 is expensive for an app then wonder why they end up with free software that sells their private data to the highest bidder.
- pdimitar 5y agoI never had a problem paying for good software. The issue is that the paid software very often isn't better, that's why many people started gravitating towards the free apps, me included. Nobody likes being scammed even if it's just for $2.
- tonyedgecombe 5y agoTake a look at any high quality non-free product and you will see reviews complaining about the price. This isn't about not wanting to be scammed, this is about people wanting something for nothing.
- ouid 5y agoIt's not an "either/or" situation, apps compete on price and that's just not where they make their money, largely.
- maccolgan 5y agoAnd then they overlook the actually good (real) free software.
- tempfs 5y agoAnother vote for Brother's Laser printers. Love mine, cheap, reliable and works on Linux without a hitch.
- odiroot 5y agoI am also in the Brother laser club. Don't know anyone having any printing problems with it. The new ones are super quiet too. They only tend to be a bit picky about the WiFi networks, so better to use with a cable.
- egberts1 5y agoMmmmm, that’s partially true. Their IPP protocol however just rocks by Ethernet wire.
- foofoo4u 5y agoSame here. Brother is the only printer brand I have used thus far that doesn't feel like its trying to scam me for my money.
- kqr2 5y agoDon't the recent Brother printers require a chip id for toner cartridges? I believe you can transfer the chips but it still seems user unfriendly.
- okl 5y agoNot aware of that. There seems to be a very old cartridge model that has a chip. Do you any link/source?
- kqr2 5y agoFor example: https://support.ldproducts.com/en_us/how-do-i-transfer-the-chip-to-my-diy-compatible-brother-tn-760-toner-cartridge-B1NvQYkIP https://support.ldproducts.com/en_us/how-do-i-transfer-the-c...
- jacquesm 5y agoEbay: used 4 series. It'll be a heirloom.
- stephbu 5y agoTBH this… Not one of these consumer printer businesses is going to survive commoditization of their now-primary source of consumer revenue - ink (the printer is just a loss-leading on-ramp to that business). These suicide-pills are the last gasps of a dying business model. Businesses don’t tolerate such shenanigans, but you and I will pay the price for doing so.
- b112 5y agoPeople have been buying 3rd party toner and ink for printers, for 30+ years. And before that, 3rd party ink and ribbons, for dot matrix printers. I agree that the consumer print business has gone down a strange path, bit this sort stuff has been going on forever. EG, printers purposefully wasting ink, I recall 20+ years ago.
- gpsx 5y agoI've had one of these forever. Great purchase. (I am sure it still works great but I never print anything anymore.)
- int_19h 5y agoI have a Brother MFC that has been working for ~10 years now. No problems using third party toner. One thing I did notice, though, is that it will start complaining and bugging you about replacing the toner before it actually runs out. There's a well-known way to reset that check, though, allowing you to print until it actually runs out.
- perl4ever 5y agoIs that like a Canon Xerox?
- rstuart4133 5y ago> Brothers LaserJet. No malware, no adware, no funky drivers; just colored, WiFi, LP-protocol, multi-tray PCL and PS support. This is all true, but it seems lasers have had their day for the occasional use printer. We have an Epson EcoTank, and all manufacturers have equivalents. The hardware has been absolutely flawless - 12k pages of ink in the box, not a single jam after 10k pages, ink is something like $20 for 10k pages and child could refill the think without making a mess. They make you pay for the privilege of not nickel and diming you after buying it by charging at least $200 more upfront, but I'd take that any day. But, for Epson at least, the simplicity of pcl6 / ps isn't there. You have to use their drivers, which often only exist for Windows. That shouldn't happen because they support "driverless printing", which is really just another printing format that supplants pcl6 / ps. They all support "driverless printing" because they need to check the "print from mobile" tick box, and they can only get it by supporting this new format. In theory, this should be great for open source because this new format started life as the internal format used by CUPS called "CUPS Raster" [0]. It was then taken up by some mob called the "Printer Working Group", made more device independent, and renamed "PWG Raster", which CUPS supports. In practice, so far, I've never had the joy of seeing a driverless printer to work with CUPS - despite the fact that phones do work with the printers. It needs more time in the oven, I guess. Mindboggling. Here we are, after 30 years of trying to come up with standard way of doing the apparently simple job of telling a printer how to put ink on paper, and we still need more time in the oven. Unbelievable. [0] https://www.cups.org/doc/api-raster.html https://www.cups.org/doc/api-raster.html