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Teen Girls Are Developing Tics. Doctors Say TikTok Could Be a Factor
- wruza 5y agodiscovered that most girls had something in common: TikTok. I don’t think it was a big secret even before their research.
- tedunangst 5y agoSnow Crash was supposed to be fiction, right?
- reilly3000 5y agoIf so its doing a terrible job.
- blobbers 5y agoDid they have tiktok in snow crash? I think I'll need to reread this oracle!
- johnsillings 5y agoWSJ is wildin' with this title
- xiphias2 5y agohttps://archive.is/DwOhP https://archive.is/DwOhP ,,The ordeal has been hard on the family, who say it has been lonely and frustrating. Kayla said she still watches ADHD videos on TikTok but has stopped watching tic videos.’’ Does watching ADHD videos on TikTok really help managing life with ADHD? I can imagine that people can learn some things from it, but the speed of TikTok itself can be damaging for people who can’t concentrate.
- foolfoolz 5y agono one is watching adhd videos to try and manage their adhd lol
- xiphias2 5y agoShe was watching it, and actually it makes sense to watch other people talking about their illness similar to yours and how they are coping with it. The problem I see is TikTok itself, instead of using YouTube with its long form videos, of published peer reviewed papers.
- inetknght 5y ago> instead of using YouTube with its long form videos, of published peer reviewed papers ...what? Long form videos, sure. Videos of published peer reviewed papers? If anything, the pandemic has demonstrated to us that most people don't watch videos of good peer-reviewed papers.
- Zababa 5y ago> YouTube with its long form videos, of published peer reviewed papers Are we talking about the same youtube? Sure, most videos are 10/15 minutes long, because the algorithm favors them, but it's 15 minutes of video for 3 minutes of content at most. And videos about published, peer reviewed papers? These things are very rare. That's not even considering the fact that these published, peer reviewed papers may be about unreproducible experiments or stuff like that.
- warent 5y agoThe fact that WSJ fell for this is both amusing and depressing. This has been going on for a long time now. Young people on TikTok pretend to have a wide variety of mental illness and neuro-atypicalities. You can find kids pretending to have Aspergers. Pretending to have ADHD. It goes on. Tourette's is one in a long list. Why? Because they think it's a quirk that makes them interesting and different. Very simply young people have massive egos and little awareness, which isn't anything new. This is a non story and giving it this attention only makes things worse.
- karaterobot 5y agoJust because something is not entirely new doesn't mean it hasn't changed. Many things existed before the internet, but have been changed by the internet in quality or quantity. It makes sense to track how these changes manifest as we travel deeper into a world shaped by networked communication and its knock-on effects.
- tyfon 5y agoThat teenagers seek self-confirmation etc is not new. What is new is unrestricted access to a world wide forum where they post videos and pictures of themselves without supervision (not just tiktok). I think it's well worth the attention it is getting in the news and more importantly study of how it affects them.
- rp1 5y agoI’m always skeptical of these types of explanations of human behavior. What is the thought process exactly? Do people think to themselves “Hmm, I need a quirk that makes me different”? I can’t imagine having such a thought. Why things appeal to people is probably much more complex.
- katmannthree 5y agoIt's not that they think that and then consciously act on the decision, just that it's the _reason_ they do it. Much like how a certain type of person will very strongly defend their musical preferences with various technical reasons, while discounting that it just happens to be what was popular when they were a teenager.
- bsd44 5y agoSeems about right. People have already devalued the meaning of terms such as "racism", "feminism" and "depression" by severely abusing them, causing enormous damage to those who are victims of what those terms represent and now they've ganged up on ADHD. Globalised social networking truly is cancer of our societies.
- hn8788 5y agoPeople don't even realize that trivializing it is doing real harm to people that actually have it. I was diagnosed with ADD as an adult, and it took about a month to find a psychiatrist willing to see me because most think that you probably just want drugs because "omg, I'm like, so ADHD sometimes". I've talked to other people with it, and it's a common issue.
- bsd44 5y agoI understand how hard it must be wanting to seek help but at the same time trying to avoid being falsely stigmatised. I sympathise with you because I can relate, but that's the world we live in. Downvotes tell you all you really need to know.
- bigmattystyles 5y agoIn a similar vein, people claiming they are OCD or using OCD as an adjective - may they never truly experience the distress OCD can cause. Often though, their use of it doesn’t bother me that much, I don’t think their intent is malicious and I’m sure I have such blind spots for other afflictions, or, well, I pick my battles nowadays.
- temp234 5y agoYeah this is where I'm at now with people misusing "OCD" :/ Sometimes, online, I just link them to stuff that explains what OCD actually is. My hope is that if people learn exactly how complex and life-ruining actual OCD can be, and how long people take to get diagnosed, they'll actually find it interesting and naturally stop using "OCD" to mean "neat" or "particular" I have used the exact same language... "not malicious"... but it's still term overloading that hurts people with OCD and keeps them living in what is legitimately hell on earth
- post_break 5y agoThere is a whole subreddit on reddit devoted to this called /r/fakedisordercringe Some of the people on tiktok faking these disorders are disgusting.
- plexman 5y agoDoes anybody know how to "unsee" something?
- corobo 5y agoI love that by using this joke in particular you've demonstrated what is occurring in the article Someone got a reaction from that joke, so you posted that joke to recreate it Not damaging in any way like faking an illness, but same process
- granzymes 5y ago/r/eyebleach Cute pictures of animals helps.
- reilly3000 5y agocan't.
- schleck8 5y agoI was about to mention the sub. The only funny thing about this is the names they always come up with for their "alters". Alaska, Lucifer, Scar, Ghost, Soul, Phantom etc.
- flerovium 5y agoOld news: https://www.wired.co.uk/article/tourettes-youtube-jan-zimmermann https://www.wired.co.uk/article/tourettes-youtube-jan-zimmer... From 1.5mo ago
- option 5y agoWhat would be the long term effect of young generation totally incapable of long term attention?
- blobbers 5y agoI think it also affects ability to wait/be patient and long/short term gratification.
- Zababa 5y agoNothing? I feel like complaining about the long term attention of "the young generation" has been a thing since Ancient Rome.
- Levitz 5y agoI really don't think it's comparable. The kind of complaints Ancient Rome had is the same as we had 50 years ago, which boiled down to adults wondering why youngsters didn't act like them. In due time youngsters age, become adults themselves and the cycle repeats. There is no shortage of adults addicted to social media. We can see the effects of it in many of us and I think it's fair to worry for the consequences it may have in developmental stages. For one, the idea new generations have about "privacy" is something I'm seriously worried about. When I was 15 I was aware that only a moron would go around the internet giving personal data. That is now expected behavior.
- Zababa 5y ago> There is no shortage of adults addicted to social media. We can see the effects of it in many of us and I think it's fair to worry for the consequences it may have in developmental stages. That's one way to see it, another way is that it's a form of adaptation. Now that everything goes very fast, you need people that can jump around things very fast to stay on top of these kind of things. I know that I personally couldn't be a social media manager, or invest in crypto/NTFs/the latest trend, because that stuff goes way too fast for me. But on the other hand, I seem to be better at going deeper into stuff for long period of time than these people. There's a chance that it's still a net negative, for sure, but I don't think we should dismiss that as "people worse than before". > For one, the idea new generations have about "privacy" is something I'm seriously worried about. When I was 15 I was aware that only a moron would go around the internet giving personal data. That is now expected behavior. I think that may be because you can be a bit more "yourself" than before. For example, it's easier to be publically gay right now than 15 years before. It's easier to publically be into niche hobbies. I think that's because people are more exposed to them, and it's something feeding on itself. I don't know if it's positive or negative, I think it's relatively neutral.
- booleandilemma 5y agoImagine you’re a teenage girl. You’re young, so you haven’t had any time to develop interesting hobbies. You shop at the same stores your friends shop at. You read the same books, watch the same movies. You’re basically a clone of your peers. At the same time, you live in a society that encourages getting “likes” and attention from thousands of people online. But frankly, you’re a boring person. So how do you differentiate yourself? You pretend to have quirky tics! Or OCD. That’s quirky too. Or ADHD - plenty of people ready to give you sympathy (and views) for that one. You stay away from schizophrenia though, that’s too dark and will lower engagement.
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- resonanttoe 5y agoWait until they start developing ToCs, then its a real problem.
- jimmyvalmer 5y agoYup, you weren't the only one who initially mistook the 'c' for a 't'.
- godDLL 5y agoBack in IDF boot-camp we used to sleep like 5 hours a night or less. So I had a thing with my bottom left eyelid starting to twitch randomly. I went to the medic, which referred me to a psychiatrist, which told me not to worry about that. A year and a half later it went away. Rarely, when I am exceptionally tired it will show up.