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I was going to replace my thinkpad with a new thinkpad, but when apple released the M1 macbook air I had to change my mind. I paid the same that I would have pa

by Joeri 5y ago

I was going to replace my thinkpad with a new thinkpad, but when apple released the M1 macbook air I had to change my mind. I paid the same that I would have paid for a T series, but got something that has the sleek thin and light build quality on par with an X1 with performance of a P series and battery life that hasn't existed on thinkpads ever since they dropped power bridge. Oh, and it is fanless. If my macbook air fell into the abyss I would replace it with another air right away, it is that good. If lenovo still made thinkpads like they used to: reasonably priced, easy to upgrade and repair, with large external batteries, and with top-notch keyboards, I might have opted for a thinkpad still. But they don't make those. All new thinkpads have so-so keyboards, they all have internal batteries (and often too small), and they're getting harder to upgrade and repair with every generation. Lenovo has chosen to chase after the macbook design, and that makes me less likely to buy thinkpads, because a thinkpad will never be as good a macbook as a macbook.

godDLL 5y ago
Not so, and here's why: Apple is chasing a target, and so does Lenovo. But Lenovo is chasing the way a MacBook used to be, which is good in my opinion. And Apple is skating wherever THE PUCK ARE THEY SKATING NOW SRSLY
Izkata 5y ago
> If lenovo still made thinkpads like they used to: [..] and with top-notch keyboards, I might have opted for a thinkpad still. But they don't make those. All new thinkpads have so-so keyboards I've seen this a few times and am curious: I got a Thinkpad at the end of 2019, and the keyboard is waaay better than the various HP, Dell, and Asus laptops I've had in the past. Did I get lucky or were all of those just way worse than I thought? What's the difference between old and current Thinkpad keyboards?
- Joeri 5y ago
  It depends on your definition of good, as for me most laptops have bad keyboards, and so-so is actually somewhat of a compliment. I do think thinkpad keyboards are still better than macbook keyboards, but not by as large a degree as they used to be. This article is a good summary of the keyboard situation: https://www.notebookcheck.net/X1-Carbon-Gen-9-Lenovo-has-to-be-careful-with-the-ThinkPad-keyboard.537996.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/X1-Carbon-Gen-9-Lenovo-has-to-...

by Joeri 5y ago

godDLL 5y ago

Not so, and here's why: Apple is chasing a target, and so does Lenovo. But Lenovo is chasing the way a MacBook used to be, which is good in my opinion. And Apple is skating wherever THE PUCK ARE THEY SKATING NOW SRSLY

Izkata 5y ago

> If lenovo still made thinkpads like they used to: [..] and with top-notch keyboards, I might have opted for a thinkpad still. But they don't make those. All new thinkpads have so-so keyboards I've seen this a few times and am curious: I got a Thinkpad at the end of 2019, and the keyboard is waaay better than the various HP, Dell, and Asus laptops I've had in the past. Did I get lucky or were all of those just way worse than I thought? What's the difference between old and current Thinkpad keyboards?

Joeri 5y ago
It depends on your definition of good, as for me most laptops have bad keyboards, and so-so is actually somewhat of a compliment. I do think thinkpad keyboards are still better than macbook keyboards, but not by as large a degree as they used to be. This article is a good summary of the keyboard situation: https://www.notebookcheck.net/X1-Carbon-Gen-9-Lenovo-has-to-be-careful-with-the-ThinkPad-keyboard.537996.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/X1-Carbon-Gen-9-Lenovo-has-to-...