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Hibernate is a tricky term that doesn't mean the same thing to all people. The working definition I use is all state is dumped from memory to disk and then retr
by emacsen 5y ago
Hibernate is a tricky term that doesn't mean the same thing to all people. The working definition I use is all state is dumped from memory to disk and then retrieved upon startup.
Sadly Hibernate is very complicated and has largely been deprecated from both Windows and Linux in favor of Sleep.
Since Hibernate is gone, let's take it off the list.
Sleep (S3) has been largely removed from these laptops in favor of a "low power mode" that emulates but does not actually sleep the device.
This is why it was previously very safe to keep your laptop in sleep or hibernate mode in a bag, but now isn't- not because user behavior has changed, or that software has changed, but because Dell's hardware has.
A shutdown and startup incur significant setup times, not just for the computer but mental workflow- remembering to open your applications back to where you left them, etc.
In the past (5 years ago) it was normal to expect a laptop to go to sleep when the lid closed and then wake itself back up.
If Dell is telling people not to expect to be able to simply sleep their laptop by closing it and then putting it in a bag, then they're not expecting people to treat the laptop as a laptop. Back in the 80s, we called such computers "Luggables".
A $2,000 laptop in 2021 should not be assumed to be a glorified luggable, it should be a laptop with the same functionality as laptops had in 2010.
- EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 5y agoI remember it worked normally back at the end of 1990s with my first laptops, just close the lid, open and everything is back up instantly, no heating at all.
- emacsen 5y agoHibernate eventually began posing trouble for a few reasons. Firstly, as memory sizes increased, the time to hibernate became longer as you had to entirely serialize memory to disk. Secondly, the number and types of peripherals were tricky to reconstitute and grab the state of, and this made working with the OS tricky. It would be possible that an application might be in the middle of an operation with a device that was no longer present, for example. Sleep was easier, and yes, it "just worked". It feels as though laptops are less functional now than they used to be because of stuff like this!
- artificialLimbs 5y agoHas hibernate been deprecated in Windows 11? Because I couldn’t get sleep to work properly on my less than year old Dell laptop but turning hibernate back on works perfectly. It actually turns the machine off. I’m not sure by what technical means it achieves that (I thought hibernate meant suspend Ram to disk and then turn off) but it works. In windows 10 you can use “Powercfg -h on” to turn it on.