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There are plenty of people blaming workers- I’ve heard many iterations of “we’ve got lazy people on unemployment who won’t work” or the signs at restaurants or

There are plenty of people blaming workers- I’ve heard many iterations of “we’ve got lazy people on unemployment who won’t work” or the signs at restaurants or stores saying “closed on X because no one wants to work any more” Is lessened with the end of unemployment benefits, but saying no one partly blames workers is not true.

bbarn 5y ago
My unemployment benefits when covid hit (In Illinois) were absolutely better than the 20$ an hour some of these companies were offering. Yes, it was much lower than my software industry salary, but I did make the state maximum in benefits. For me it was a lot lower than my salary, but if the state maximum for some people was just under what they made, I can absolutely see people favoring unemployment benefits over working a crappy job. There is an idea of morality in living on unemployment when you're otherwise capable of working a job, but during lockdowns, a changing society, etc., can you really blame anyone for choosing the easy option? Some people call it lazy, but I think it's more that many people in society are starting to see the old way just sucks for them. Living in lockdown has forced many to reevaluate what's important to them, and flipping burgers to pay bills isn't high up there.
- lotsofpulp 5y ago
  > There is an idea of morality in living on unemployment when you're otherwise capable of working a job, A bullshit idea since conveniently there is no accompanying idea of morality in living on your parents’ money when you are capable of working a near minimum wage job.
  - topkai22 5y ago
    There absolutely is an idea of morality of living off your parents income, at least after a certain age. While I know plenty of parents who will assist their adult kids who are working or provide short term help in between jobs, I know very few who will unconditionally sponsor otherwise capable idle children, and I am perfectly fine saying those parents are making a mistake at many levels, including moral.

bbarn 5y ago

My unemployment benefits when covid hit (In Illinois) were absolutely better than the 20$ an hour some of these companies were offering. Yes, it was much lower than my software industry salary, but I did make the state maximum in benefits. For me it was a lot lower than my salary, but if the state maximum for some people was just under what they made, I can absolutely see people favoring unemployment benefits over working a crappy job. There is an idea of morality in living on unemployment when you're otherwise capable of working a job, but during lockdowns, a changing society, etc., can you really blame anyone for choosing the easy option? Some people call it lazy, but I think it's more that many people in society are starting to see the old way just sucks for them. Living in lockdown has forced many to reevaluate what's important to them, and flipping burgers to pay bills isn't high up there.

lotsofpulp 5y ago
> There is an idea of morality in living on unemployment when you're otherwise capable of working a job, A bullshit idea since conveniently there is no accompanying idea of morality in living on your parents’ money when you are capable of working a near minimum wage job.
- topkai22 5y ago
  There absolutely is an idea of morality of living off your parents income, at least after a certain age. While I know plenty of parents who will assist their adult kids who are working or provide short term help in between jobs, I know very few who will unconditionally sponsor otherwise capable idle children, and I am perfectly fine saying those parents are making a mistake at many levels, including moral.