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To the many people coming here to comment about why she had personal apps on a work phone: Some Apple employees are reportedly required to link their personal i

To the many people coming here to comment about why she had personal apps on a work phone: Some Apple employees are reportedly required to link their personal iCloud with their work account/devices. https://www.theverge.com/22648265/apple-employee-privacy-icloud-id https://www.theverge.com/22648265/apple-employee-privacy-icl...

ianai 5y ago
Shouldn’t you probably degoogle or deapple your online stuff before working for a competitor? I know that’s a high bar, but there’s probably a point between lowest rung worker and VP where it makes sense professionally/personally.
- opinion-is-bad 5y ago
  You’d have a revolt at Google of you tried to take away their MacBooks and iPhones.
judge2020 5y ago
It's not "required", the office culture is just one that encourages employees to dogfood new features and whatnot on their daily drivers. It's not uncommon for Apple employees to make new regular Apple IDs for work: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28242037 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28242037 It's fair to say that combining personal data with work data won't end well.
hvocode 5y ago
Stop spreading misinformation. People have always had the ability to create work-specific accounts for use on corporate devices. I’m shocked that it’s not common knowledge that corporate devices are NOT yours, and you basically cede all rights to data on and usage of the devices. Never use a work device for non-work purposes unless you are fine with those non-work activities being 100% visible to your employer. I know misinformation feels good since it supports a narrative, but everyone benefits from accuracy and honesty.
- bryceacc 5y ago
  It is a fact that many people "live on" their work devices as if they are their personal devices. I havent ever heard that be a requirement though, it just happens to be the way people use it
  - cercatrova 5y ago
    Sure, but then if something bad happens to their personal side such as a corporate remote wipe, well, they reap what they sow.
- fenomas 5y ago
  My dude, I am neither the author nor the quoted source of the article I linked. Dial it down a notch hey? Also, your other comments are pretty extensively addressed in the same article.
  - blitzar 5y ago
    No, but you have cited an article and source that has been proven to be incorrect on the topic. You went to the effort to find said piece of information but skipped the next search result on google where tons of apple employees say 'nahh thats bullshit' 'yeah you can, but you dont have to, most managers tell you not to and only an idiot would do that'
    - fenomas 5y ago
      I looked for contrary articles and didn't see any. If you have some handy, posting links to them would add a lot more to the conversation than randomly spewing invective at me.
      - blitzar 5y ago
        Try HN
- dang 5y ago
  This comment breaks the site guidelines. Regardless of how wrong another comment is or you feel it is, please provide correct information respectfully, without name-calling or personal attacks. This is particularly important when correcting an error, because otherwise the bad aspects of your comment end up discrediting the truth, which hurts everybody. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=truth%20discredit%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

ianai 5y ago

Shouldn’t you probably degoogle or deapple your online stuff before working for a competitor? I know that’s a high bar, but there’s probably a point between lowest rung worker and VP where it makes sense professionally/personally.

opinion-is-bad 5y ago
You’d have a revolt at Google of you tried to take away their MacBooks and iPhones.

judge2020 5y ago

It's not "required", the office culture is just one that encourages employees to dogfood new features and whatnot on their daily drivers. It's not uncommon for Apple employees to make new regular Apple IDs for work: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28242037 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28242037 It's fair to say that combining personal data with work data won't end well.

hvocode 5y ago

Stop spreading misinformation. People have always had the ability to create work-specific accounts for use on corporate devices. I’m shocked that it’s not common knowledge that corporate devices are NOT yours, and you basically cede all rights to data on and usage of the devices. Never use a work device for non-work purposes unless you are fine with those non-work activities being 100% visible to your employer. I know misinformation feels good since it supports a narrative, but everyone benefits from accuracy and honesty.

bryceacc 5y ago
It is a fact that many people "live on" their work devices as if they are their personal devices. I havent ever heard that be a requirement though, it just happens to be the way people use it
- cercatrova 5y ago
  Sure, but then if something bad happens to their personal side such as a corporate remote wipe, well, they reap what they sow.
fenomas 5y ago
My dude, I am neither the author nor the quoted source of the article I linked. Dial it down a notch hey? Also, your other comments are pretty extensively addressed in the same article.
- blitzar 5y ago
  No, but you have cited an article and source that has been proven to be incorrect on the topic. You went to the effort to find said piece of information but skipped the next search result on google where tons of apple employees say 'nahh thats bullshit' 'yeah you can, but you dont have to, most managers tell you not to and only an idiot would do that'
  - fenomas 5y ago
    I looked for contrary articles and didn't see any. If you have some handy, posting links to them would add a lot more to the conversation than randomly spewing invective at me.
    - blitzar 5y ago
      Try HN
dang 5y ago
This comment breaks the site guidelines. Regardless of how wrong another comment is or you feel it is, please provide correct information respectfully, without name-calling or personal attacks. This is particularly important when correcting an error, because otherwise the bad aspects of your comment end up discrediting the truth, which hurts everybody. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=truth%20discredit%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html