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Hey that is a completely valid opinion to have. I have no right to tell you cannot think that. However at the same time I have a right to think its not okay t

Hey that is a completely valid opinion to have. I have no right to tell you cannot think that. However at the same time I have a right to think its not okay to find it funny. Out of curiosity where is the line for you? Do you find it funny when a smoker dies of cancer or a heavy drinker dies of liver failure? Do you find it funny when someone dies in a car accident (cars are extremely dangerous and they choose to get in it)? What about a soldier (they choose to enlist)? What about stunt people? Should a healthy fit person be able to kick out a life-long smoker or an obese person from a hospital room?

CamperBob2 5y ago
Out of curiosity where is the line for you? Do you find it funny when a smoker dies of cancer or a heavy drinker dies of liver failure? Do you find it funny when someone dies in a car accident (cars are extremely dangerous and they choose to get in it)? What about a soldier (they choose to enlist)? What about stunt people? This is a common-enough schtick among antivaxxers that it has a readily-available (and rather obvious) response: those people aren't contagious.
- keneda7 5y ago
  So are you saying that your line is when someone else is contagious with covid or something else? Seems extremely selective to me. Second hand smoke has killed 30k+ in the US yearly for decades. Drunk drivers and reckless drivers kill thousands of people yearly. So yes they aren't able to give you covid but the are in fact very capable of killing other innocent people that did nothing wrong. Also once again we are talking about whether or not is okay to laugh at someone dying. It has nothing to do with antivax stuff. This is the second time you have attempted to put words in my mouth. Please stop.
  - CamperBob2 5y ago
    Given a hypothetical group of smokers who not only blow smoke in other peoples' faces on purpose but who loudly advocate that other people do so, claiming that it's all a big conspiracy and that secondhand smoke is actually harmless or even healthy, yes. I'd put them on the same side of the line as antivaxxers. Same with drunk driving. Did the drunk driver own a chain of car repair shops that promoted their $29 oil changes by offering free shots of Jaegermeister in the lube bay? Well, sorry, pal, someone who didn't do that is ahead of you in triage. We could maybe fit you in next Tuesday. Also once again we are talking about whether or not is okay to laugh at someone dying. It has nothing to do with antivax stuff. This is the second time you have attempted to put words in my mouth. Please stop. Yet out of all the worthy causes in the world, you choose to take time out of your day to defend this one. Curious. The antivaxxers have social-media heavyweights like Tucker Carlson and Robert F. Kennedy and Nicki Minaj and Eric Clapton speaking for them. You can take a break.
    - keneda7 5y ago
      I think its curious someone who has admitted they think others dying is funny is trying to judge what I choose to defend. Can you please provide evidence I only defend antivaxxers? Maybe go look at my previous post in which I say anyone making fun of someone else dying is disgusting. This is the third time you have put words in my mouth. Once again stop. You need to learn to argue without making stuff up to defend your point.
      - CamperBob2 5y ago
        Don't want to be taken for an antivaxxer or antivax apologist? Don't argue like one. Otherwise, the risk is that you'll come across as just another concern troll. You've pretty much nailed the main tropes.

CamperBob2 5y ago

Out of curiosity where is the line for you? Do you find it funny when a smoker dies of cancer or a heavy drinker dies of liver failure? Do you find it funny when someone dies in a car accident (cars are extremely dangerous and they choose to get in it)? What about a soldier (they choose to enlist)? What about stunt people? This is a common-enough schtick among antivaxxers that it has a readily-available (and rather obvious) response: those people aren't contagious.

keneda7 5y ago
So are you saying that your line is when someone else is contagious with covid or something else? Seems extremely selective to me. Second hand smoke has killed 30k+ in the US yearly for decades. Drunk drivers and reckless drivers kill thousands of people yearly. So yes they aren't able to give you covid but the are in fact very capable of killing other innocent people that did nothing wrong. Also once again we are talking about whether or not is okay to laugh at someone dying. It has nothing to do with antivax stuff. This is the second time you have attempted to put words in my mouth. Please stop.
- CamperBob2 5y ago
  Given a hypothetical group of smokers who not only blow smoke in other peoples' faces on purpose but who loudly advocate that other people do so, claiming that it's all a big conspiracy and that secondhand smoke is actually harmless or even healthy, yes. I'd put them on the same side of the line as antivaxxers. Same with drunk driving. Did the drunk driver own a chain of car repair shops that promoted their $29 oil changes by offering free shots of Jaegermeister in the lube bay? Well, sorry, pal, someone who didn't do that is ahead of you in triage. We could maybe fit you in next Tuesday. Also once again we are talking about whether or not is okay to laugh at someone dying. It has nothing to do with antivax stuff. This is the second time you have attempted to put words in my mouth. Please stop. Yet out of all the worthy causes in the world, you choose to take time out of your day to defend this one. Curious. The antivaxxers have social-media heavyweights like Tucker Carlson and Robert F. Kennedy and Nicki Minaj and Eric Clapton speaking for them. You can take a break.
  - keneda7 5y ago
    I think its curious someone who has admitted they think others dying is funny is trying to judge what I choose to defend. Can you please provide evidence I only defend antivaxxers? Maybe go look at my previous post in which I say anyone making fun of someone else dying is disgusting. This is the third time you have put words in my mouth. Once again stop. You need to learn to argue without making stuff up to defend your point.
    - CamperBob2 5y ago
      Don't want to be taken for an antivaxxer or antivax apologist? Don't argue like one. Otherwise, the risk is that you'll come across as just another concern troll. You've pretty much nailed the main tropes.