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My 2015 MBP running Mojave is on its last legs. Everything Apple has released since then - both the increasingly unstable OS "upgrades" and all the horrible har

My 2015 MBP running Mojave is on its last legs. Everything Apple has released since then - both the increasingly unstable OS "upgrades" and all the horrible hardware changes including the broken keyboards in 2016, lack of ports, removal of escape and function keys, gimmicky touch bar, etc. - have discouraged me from upgrading to a new laptop, even at work where my employer would be paying for it. I'm at the point where if they don't release a new Intel MBP that's a worthy successor to the 2015 15" model, then I'll probably just end up giving up on Apple for good and moving to a Dell with WSL. I imagine I'm not the only one who has patiently been waiting for years, but won't do so much longer.

daniel-thompson 5y ago
I guess we’ll find out on Monday, but have you seen anything to suggest Apple is releasing new Intel models? Everything I’ve seen says that they’re transitioning completely to the M1/M1X.
spfzero 5y ago
I'm running on my 2015 still as well. The later Intel models never got me excited, with what seemed to be only marginal performance increases every year, and my 2015 being rock-solid reliable. The M1X definitely interests me. I don't think you'll be seeing any new Intel-based laptops from Apple though.
cultofmetatron 5y ago
check out the frame.work laptop. The future is repairability and you won't be compromising too much in terms of form factor. Also, you can replace the battery yourself. (its sad that in 2021, thats a FEATURE)
- e-clinton 5y ago
  The framework laptop looks awesome and it’s a noble vision, but hardware isn’t why Windows/Linux/Android ecosystems are behind Mac OS. I’ve given up on Google trying to solve that but I’m hopeful for Microsoft. Tight/Seamless integration is the future, not being able to swap out an SD card expansion slot for a USB-C slot. My wife just moved from a Thinkpad to an iPad Pro and I’ve never seen her use a computer as much as she does now.
bsaul 5y ago
2013 MBP.. same reasons, same hopes...(except i don't mind an m1.. i've heard only good things)
- axiosgunnar 5y ago
  If you come from a 2013 MBP to an M1… you will think you're in a different galaxy.
laurencerowe 5y ago
What do you run on it that needs to be intel? The Rosetta translation works really well for everything but doesn’t work for VMs. Notably docker for Mac runs in a VM but almost everything has arm images available now so it’s no longer an issue for me.
- hiram112 5y ago
  I guess I'd have no issue with Arm chips if the developer experience is pretty seamless, considering we deal with numerous languages and frameworks, Docker images, etc and deploy to X86 "cloud" servers. We're already struggling to deal with years of legacy problems while also implementing endless new features. I hate to say it, but I'm currently building ad-hoc production "patches" of images on my local machine and just pushing them straight to running prod servers without any sort of testing or CI/CD. It's a mess. And the last thing I need is to worry about a bunch of build incompatibilities between architectures as I move from dev and prod environments. I remember the many crazy bugs we'd find just from developing on Windows and deploying to Linux (new lines, unicode incompatibilities, filesystem and path differences, etc).
nebula8804 5y ago
There is no way they are releasing an Intel model. Why would they? The M1 chip has been an outstanding success exceeding the expectations of every reviewer I have seen. It has blown me away so much that I can't wait to rid x86 from my life. Burn the boats! This is a whole new world.
- rbanffy 5y ago
  Right now the only reason to buy an Intel Mac is needing more than 16GB of RAM. I’m holding off replacing my Mac Mini because of that. The MacPro is another Mac you may need to stick to x86 for now if you benefit from having up to 1.5TB of RAM. I expect to see M1-based Macs with 32 or 64GB of RAM, but I don’t expect to see one that can match the MacPro just now.
wodenokoto 5y ago
Don't hold your breath. If you can't stand the OS upgrades and want to stay on Intel chips, you might as well leave Apple now.

daniel-thompson 5y ago

I guess we’ll find out on Monday, but have you seen anything to suggest Apple is releasing new Intel models? Everything I’ve seen says that they’re transitioning completely to the M1/M1X.

spfzero 5y ago

I'm running on my 2015 still as well. The later Intel models never got me excited, with what seemed to be only marginal performance increases every year, and my 2015 being rock-solid reliable. The M1X definitely interests me. I don't think you'll be seeing any new Intel-based laptops from Apple though.

cultofmetatron 5y ago

check out the frame.work laptop. The future is repairability and you won't be compromising too much in terms of form factor. Also, you can replace the battery yourself. (its sad that in 2021, thats a FEATURE)

e-clinton 5y ago
The framework laptop looks awesome and it’s a noble vision, but hardware isn’t why Windows/Linux/Android ecosystems are behind Mac OS. I’ve given up on Google trying to solve that but I’m hopeful for Microsoft. Tight/Seamless integration is the future, not being able to swap out an SD card expansion slot for a USB-C slot. My wife just moved from a Thinkpad to an iPad Pro and I’ve never seen her use a computer as much as she does now.

bsaul 5y ago

2013 MBP.. same reasons, same hopes...(except i don't mind an m1.. i've heard only good things)

axiosgunnar 5y ago
If you come from a 2013 MBP to an M1… you will think you're in a different galaxy.

laurencerowe 5y ago

What do you run on it that needs to be intel? The Rosetta translation works really well for everything but doesn’t work for VMs. Notably docker for Mac runs in a VM but almost everything has arm images available now so it’s no longer an issue for me.

hiram112 5y ago
I guess I'd have no issue with Arm chips if the developer experience is pretty seamless, considering we deal with numerous languages and frameworks, Docker images, etc and deploy to X86 "cloud" servers. We're already struggling to deal with years of legacy problems while also implementing endless new features. I hate to say it, but I'm currently building ad-hoc production "patches" of images on my local machine and just pushing them straight to running prod servers without any sort of testing or CI/CD. It's a mess. And the last thing I need is to worry about a bunch of build incompatibilities between architectures as I move from dev and prod environments. I remember the many crazy bugs we'd find just from developing on Windows and deploying to Linux (new lines, unicode incompatibilities, filesystem and path differences, etc).

nebula8804 5y ago

There is no way they are releasing an Intel model. Why would they? The M1 chip has been an outstanding success exceeding the expectations of every reviewer I have seen. It has blown me away so much that I can't wait to rid x86 from my life. Burn the boats! This is a whole new world.

rbanffy 5y ago
Right now the only reason to buy an Intel Mac is needing more than 16GB of RAM. I’m holding off replacing my Mac Mini because of that. The MacPro is another Mac you may need to stick to x86 for now if you benefit from having up to 1.5TB of RAM. I expect to see M1-based Macs with 32 or 64GB of RAM, but I don’t expect to see one that can match the MacPro just now.

wodenokoto 5y ago

Don't hold your breath. If you can't stand the OS upgrades and want to stay on Intel chips, you might as well leave Apple now.