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Common sense in tech went out the window with touchscreens on phones. They even make the cases out of glass now. So not only do they break immediately, they sli

Common sense in tech went out the window with touchscreens on phones. They even make the cases out of glass now. So not only do they break immediately, they slip out of your hands easier.

ddingus 5y ago
Basically, case required. I gave up, and went for a battery back case. Once I got used to the size, it's all good and I pretty much do not care what they make the phones out of. That said, man... I sure miss my Note 4. Plastic back, plastic all over the place. Great phone, removable battery, fast, the works! Cat peed on it. Total loss.
- devoutsalsa 5y ago
  I’m gonna have to stop hiding my phone in the litter box.
  - throwanem 5y ago
    Some cats are just like that. They know it's yours and they're irked with you for some reason, and this is how they make their point. An ex years back had a cat with that kind of attitude. I had this really nice surround receiver that I'd rescued off a curb and recapped, getting a $600+ unit back into service for about twenty bucks in parts and a few hours' work, and while I wasn't really getting the most out of it, it made a splendid headphone and speaker amp for my office. This cat took a liking to sleeping on top of it, for the warmth of the ventilation slots. No problem - until she got in a mood one evening, looked me dead in the eyes, and proceeded to throw up into the thing. It went bang and sent up a sad little wisp of smoke, and that was all she wrote - cats may not laugh, but they sure as hell smirk. She was probably pissed because my cat had beat her up again, but it wasn't as if she or anyone else could blame him for that; she'd made his kittenhood a living hell, and he carried the grudge all the way into adulthood and twenty pounds of muscle. She couldn't take it out on him any more, but everyone in that house knew I was his person, so she took it out on me. Dogs are a bit smarter, I think, most times - some dogs, anyway. But cats in my experience are considerably more subtle.
    - ddingus 5y ago
      Truth. Very resonant with my cat experiences. I do not know about smarter. Our cats can manipulate and intimidate our larger dogs... But more boundary aware? Dogs for sure.
  - ddingus 5y ago
    I had come back from a trip. Wife had put a mattress in a spare room, on the floor due to a project to upgrade our room. Me, and the phone were low to the ground, and I believe the cat was pissed at the change and expressed it on my phone. Still pissed about it. That was a great phone, and I did lose some data I value.
na85 5y ago
They make them out of glass because hefty glass phones subjectively feel more expensive than hollow-feeling plastic Android trash.
p1mrx 5y ago
Glass makes a lot of sense on the front of a phone. It's more durable and scratch-resistant than the transparent plastic that was used previously.
- Retric 5y ago
  Nothing prevents an integrating plastic protection around the edges of a glass front. We could get most of the protection of a case in terms of dropping in concrete without the bulk. Ex: Ulefone Armor 10 5G granted the branding is ugly but that’s on the manufacture. IMO at that point you might as well make the phone as wide as these new camera lenses and for some extra battery life.
  - krrrh 5y ago
    > Nothing prevents an integrating plastic protection around the edges of a glass front. Hasn’t this been handled with cases? Everyone gets to make their own bulk/protection trade offs.
    - Retric 5y ago
      Assuming the back and edges are made out of aluminum or something you don’t need to protect it. You only need to protect a tiny lip around the front glass to get equivalent shatter protection which would be vastly less bulky than even an ultra thin case. In other words I want ~90% of the protection with only ~1-5% of the added volume.
      - p1mrx 5y ago
        Would a "bumper case" (just a ring, with no back protection) do what you're describing? Or would you rather have that ring volume filled with battery?
        Retric 5y ago
        The glass back of a phone needs to be thicker than an aluminum back for equivalent strength. It wouldn’t be much width, but modern cellphone batteries are thin. Going beyond that for the camera on the other hand would add more bulk.
easytiger 5y ago
Agreed. This is design insanity and I can't believe it has become nearly standard practice

Common sense in tech went out the window with touchscreens on phones. They even make the cases out of glass now. So not only do they break immediately, they slip out of your hands easier.

ddingus 5y ago

Basically, case required. I gave up, and went for a battery back case. Once I got used to the size, it's all good and I pretty much do not care what they make the phones out of. That said, man... I sure miss my Note 4. Plastic back, plastic all over the place. Great phone, removable battery, fast, the works! Cat peed on it. Total loss.

devoutsalsa 5y ago
I’m gonna have to stop hiding my phone in the litter box.
- throwanem 5y ago
  Some cats are just like that. They know it's yours and they're irked with you for some reason, and this is how they make their point. An ex years back had a cat with that kind of attitude. I had this really nice surround receiver that I'd rescued off a curb and recapped, getting a $600+ unit back into service for about twenty bucks in parts and a few hours' work, and while I wasn't really getting the most out of it, it made a splendid headphone and speaker amp for my office. This cat took a liking to sleeping on top of it, for the warmth of the ventilation slots. No problem - until she got in a mood one evening, looked me dead in the eyes, and proceeded to throw up into the thing. It went bang and sent up a sad little wisp of smoke, and that was all she wrote - cats may not laugh, but they sure as hell smirk. She was probably pissed because my cat had beat her up again, but it wasn't as if she or anyone else could blame him for that; she'd made his kittenhood a living hell, and he carried the grudge all the way into adulthood and twenty pounds of muscle. She couldn't take it out on him any more, but everyone in that house knew I was his person, so she took it out on me. Dogs are a bit smarter, I think, most times - some dogs, anyway. But cats in my experience are considerably more subtle.
  - ddingus 5y ago
    Truth. Very resonant with my cat experiences. I do not know about smarter. Our cats can manipulate and intimidate our larger dogs... But more boundary aware? Dogs for sure.
- ddingus 5y ago
  I had come back from a trip. Wife had put a mattress in a spare room, on the floor due to a project to upgrade our room. Me, and the phone were low to the ground, and I believe the cat was pissed at the change and expressed it on my phone. Still pissed about it. That was a great phone, and I did lose some data I value.

na85 5y ago

They make them out of glass because hefty glass phones subjectively feel more expensive than hollow-feeling plastic Android trash.

p1mrx 5y ago

Glass makes a lot of sense on the front of a phone. It's more durable and scratch-resistant than the transparent plastic that was used previously.

Retric 5y ago
Nothing prevents an integrating plastic protection around the edges of a glass front. We could get most of the protection of a case in terms of dropping in concrete without the bulk. Ex: Ulefone Armor 10 5G granted the branding is ugly but that’s on the manufacture. IMO at that point you might as well make the phone as wide as these new camera lenses and for some extra battery life.
- krrrh 5y ago
  > Nothing prevents an integrating plastic protection around the edges of a glass front. Hasn’t this been handled with cases? Everyone gets to make their own bulk/protection trade offs.
  - Retric 5y ago
    Assuming the back and edges are made out of aluminum or something you don’t need to protect it. You only need to protect a tiny lip around the front glass to get equivalent shatter protection which would be vastly less bulky than even an ultra thin case. In other words I want ~90% of the protection with only ~1-5% of the added volume.
    - p1mrx 5y ago
      Would a "bumper case" (just a ring, with no back protection) do what you're describing? Or would you rather have that ring volume filled with battery?
      - Retric 5y ago
        The glass back of a phone needs to be thicker than an aluminum back for equivalent strength. It wouldn’t be much width, but modern cellphone batteries are thin. Going beyond that for the camera on the other hand would add more bulk.

easytiger 5y ago

Agreed. This is design insanity and I can't believe it has become nearly standard practice