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I have browsed the subreddit. It is filled will people celebrating other dying. It also was posting people private information causing the families of the dec

I have browsed the subreddit. It is filled will people celebrating other dying. It also was posting people private information causing the families of the deceased to get harassed. This recently lead the subreddits moderators to change the rules to keep this from happening so don't bother denying it. It is no different than the anti-vaxers posting picture of people's social media feeds bragging about being vaccinated and then ending up in the hospital. Its disgusting and completely uncalled for. Is it okay to celebrate when an obese person dies from heart disease? No it is not. Its a time to let their families and friends grieve their loss.

b0sk 5y ago
> It is no different than the anti-vaxers posting picture of people's social media feeds bragging about being vaccinated and then ending up in the hospital. What a sad analogy. One group that can take one or two shots and can drastically decrease the odds of hospitalization vs one group that tried to do the right thing but still got COVID mostly due to huge community transmission contributed by the unvaxxed group. > Is it okay to celebrate when an obese person dies from heart disease? If only obese people could take 2 shots that drastically reduces the odds of heart disease.
- keneda7 5y ago
  I'm not and have never been arguing about whether or not to take a vaccine. I am arguing celebrating people dying is disgusting no matter the cause. That is it. You can disagree and list why you disagree and I'll respond but, I have zero interesting in arguing about taking a vaccine or if taking 2 shots is easier than exhibiting self control.
- BitwiseFool 5y ago
  >"If only obese people could take 2 shots that drastically reduces the odds of heart disease. " In this analogy, if such a shot did exist and there were obese people who did not take it, would there be a subreddit giving out awards for when they die from obesity related complications?
  - lghh 5y ago
    If they could easily spread obesity to others and potentially get them killed as well, I don't see why not.
TulliusCicero 5y ago
These comparisons to obesity are so, so stupid. Obesity is a far more complex case, with much more challenging solutions. For people that become fatter more easily, it takes a lot of work every week to maintain a healthy lifestyle, and that basically never stops. Obese people are almost never proudly very overweight, and if a normal weight was just a couple safe and free shots away, virtually all of them would sign up. In contrast, vaccination is widely accessible, free, easy, and barely consumes any time. You have to actively not want to be vaccinated at this point to avoid it.
- lghh 5y ago
  Also, you can't spread obesity to the non-obese. I know about network affect influencing obesity, but that's a process and involves actions on the other parties behalf and takes more than a few minutes. Don't try to "gotcha" me.
  - shard 5y ago
    Network effects can cause the spread of obesity, as well as ideologies such as the anti-vax movement, so I don't see why it's not a "gotcha".
    - lghh 5y ago
      Because beyond ideology you can literally spread Covid, not just the incorrect ideas around the Covid vaccine. Like, I can be around someone with Covid and catch it and have Covid. That's a clear difference from obesity.
    - TulliusCicero 5y ago
      It's possible to resist network effects, not really possible to resist virus particles you unknowingly inhale.
      - chris_wot 5y ago
        You can socially distance and wear a mask.
MisterBastahrd 5y ago
Sure thing, dude. Here's a mental exercise for you: what percentage of the obese population would, if they could, take a vaccine that would prevent them from being obese? Given the sheer amount of money spent on diet programs every year, I'm betting that the percentage would be absolutely staggering. Even most of those who are against taking the COVID vaccine would take it. Now compare that to these people who don't want to take a vaccine because they (a) believe that they're nigh-invincible, and (b) believe that they're taking a political stand against tyranny. Opening people's eyes to what the disease does and how it can be prevented is vastly more important than the feelings of the family members of gullible people.

b0sk 5y ago

> It is no different than the anti-vaxers posting picture of people's social media feeds bragging about being vaccinated and then ending up in the hospital. What a sad analogy. One group that can take one or two shots and can drastically decrease the odds of hospitalization vs one group that tried to do the right thing but still got COVID mostly due to huge community transmission contributed by the unvaxxed group. > Is it okay to celebrate when an obese person dies from heart disease? If only obese people could take 2 shots that drastically reduces the odds of heart disease.

keneda7 5y ago
I'm not and have never been arguing about whether or not to take a vaccine. I am arguing celebrating people dying is disgusting no matter the cause. That is it. You can disagree and list why you disagree and I'll respond but, I have zero interesting in arguing about taking a vaccine or if taking 2 shots is easier than exhibiting self control.
BitwiseFool 5y ago
>"If only obese people could take 2 shots that drastically reduces the odds of heart disease. " In this analogy, if such a shot did exist and there were obese people who did not take it, would there be a subreddit giving out awards for when they die from obesity related complications?
- lghh 5y ago
  If they could easily spread obesity to others and potentially get them killed as well, I don't see why not.

TulliusCicero 5y ago

These comparisons to obesity are so, so stupid. Obesity is a far more complex case, with much more challenging solutions. For people that become fatter more easily, it takes a lot of work every week to maintain a healthy lifestyle, and that basically never stops. Obese people are almost never proudly very overweight, and if a normal weight was just a couple safe and free shots away, virtually all of them would sign up. In contrast, vaccination is widely accessible, free, easy, and barely consumes any time. You have to actively not want to be vaccinated at this point to avoid it.

lghh 5y ago
Also, you can't spread obesity to the non-obese. I know about network affect influencing obesity, but that's a process and involves actions on the other parties behalf and takes more than a few minutes. Don't try to "gotcha" me.
- shard 5y ago
  Network effects can cause the spread of obesity, as well as ideologies such as the anti-vax movement, so I don't see why it's not a "gotcha".
  - lghh 5y ago
    Because beyond ideology you can literally spread Covid, not just the incorrect ideas around the Covid vaccine. Like, I can be around someone with Covid and catch it and have Covid. That's a clear difference from obesity.
  - TulliusCicero 5y ago
    It's possible to resist network effects, not really possible to resist virus particles you unknowingly inhale.
    - chris_wot 5y ago
      You can socially distance and wear a mask.

MisterBastahrd 5y ago

Sure thing, dude. Here's a mental exercise for you: what percentage of the obese population would, if they could, take a vaccine that would prevent them from being obese? Given the sheer amount of money spent on diet programs every year, I'm betting that the percentage would be absolutely staggering. Even most of those who are against taking the COVID vaccine would take it. Now compare that to these people who don't want to take a vaccine because they (a) believe that they're nigh-invincible, and (b) believe that they're taking a political stand against tyranny. Opening people's eyes to what the disease does and how it can be prevented is vastly more important than the feelings of the family members of gullible people.