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Yes, but — we now have far richer, more colorful, displays with skeumorphic design. They can be more distracting, but it also can mean that it's much easier to

by leoh 5y ago

Yes, but — we now have far richer, more colorful, displays with skeumorphic design. They can be more distracting, but it also can mean that it's much easier to figure out how to do what out of the corner of one's eye.

theodric 5y ago
Guess they can put that on my tombstone as I fiddle with the touchscreen or BMW iCrash trying to turn down the airco in traffic
Arrath 5y ago
I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic.
IncRnd 5y ago
And a person still needs to take their eyes off of the road to look at that wonderfully designed touchscreen.
DoingIsLearning 5y ago
Android Auto and Apple CarPlay generates worse reaction times then driving drunk. [0] The large touchscreen trend in automotive is a unnecessary risk for everyone on the road and needs to be reverted. [0] R Ramnath, N Kinnear, S Chowdhury, T Hyatt, (2020) 'Interacting with Android Auto and Apple CarPlay when driving', TRL, Transport Research Foundation, UK https://trl.co.uk/publications/interacting-with-android-auto-and-apple-carplay-when-driving https://trl.co.uk/publications/interacting-with-android-auto...
- simondotau 5y ago
  Not defending automotive touchsceeens, but there’s a fairly sizeable difference between being “worse than drunk” for a few seconds and being actually drunk for the entire journey. Most people are not terrible at judging risk and generally limit use of touchscreens in moments of elevated risk (e.g. intersections). If it really is a problem we should be able to see it in real world crash statistics.
  - DoingIsLearning 5y ago
    > Most people are not terrible at judging risk This is perhaps something you self-perceive that you can do well so others must also be able. It reminds me of those studies of how sleep deprived people do poorly in cognitive tests but still self-assess as having performed well. > world crash statistics Until we start seeing police and investigators actually requesting for manufacturer's infotainment logs, I would question the statistics on this matter. Arguably very few people would admit to have crashed because of infotainment screens unless there was video footage to prove it.
    - simondotau 5y ago
      I chose my words carefully. I didn't say that people are good at perceiving risk, I said they were not terrible at it. In the context of this discussion, being the relative levels of risk within different moments of a single driving journey. Most people aren't navigating a touch screen while steering a complex intersection. People are famously bad at assessing disparate risks. The unit micromort is useful for clarifying mortality risk of various behaviours. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micromort https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micromort ——————— With respect to crash statistics, obviously we're not going to ask people why they crashed. I would have thought this is so self-evidently flawed as a methodology that it didn't warrant pointing out. It's probably safer to assume that most people will lie about why they crashed. Fortunately, the statistical question is much simpler than it might seem: are people crashing newer cars more than older cars? Where answering this question becomes complex to answer accurately is when isolating this from both environmental change and vehicle age, because you can't isolate both variables at the same time.

by leoh 5y ago

theodric 5y ago

Guess they can put that on my tombstone as I fiddle with the touchscreen or BMW iCrash trying to turn down the airco in traffic

Arrath 5y ago

I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic.

IncRnd 5y ago

And a person still needs to take their eyes off of the road to look at that wonderfully designed touchscreen.

DoingIsLearning 5y ago

Android Auto and Apple CarPlay generates worse reaction times then driving drunk. [0] The large touchscreen trend in automotive is a unnecessary risk for everyone on the road and needs to be reverted. [0] R Ramnath, N Kinnear, S Chowdhury, T Hyatt, (2020) 'Interacting with Android Auto and Apple CarPlay when driving', TRL, Transport Research Foundation, UK https://trl.co.uk/publications/interacting-with-android-auto-and-apple-carplay-when-driving https://trl.co.uk/publications/interacting-with-android-auto...

simondotau 5y ago
Not defending automotive touchsceeens, but there’s a fairly sizeable difference between being “worse than drunk” for a few seconds and being actually drunk for the entire journey. Most people are not terrible at judging risk and generally limit use of touchscreens in moments of elevated risk (e.g. intersections). If it really is a problem we should be able to see it in real world crash statistics.
- DoingIsLearning 5y ago
  > Most people are not terrible at judging risk This is perhaps something you self-perceive that you can do well so others must also be able. It reminds me of those studies of how sleep deprived people do poorly in cognitive tests but still self-assess as having performed well. > world crash statistics Until we start seeing police and investigators actually requesting for manufacturer's infotainment logs, I would question the statistics on this matter. Arguably very few people would admit to have crashed because of infotainment screens unless there was video footage to prove it.
  - simondotau 5y ago
    I chose my words carefully. I didn't say that people are good at perceiving risk, I said they were not terrible at it. In the context of this discussion, being the relative levels of risk within different moments of a single driving journey. Most people aren't navigating a touch screen while steering a complex intersection. People are famously bad at assessing disparate risks. The unit micromort is useful for clarifying mortality risk of various behaviours. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micromort https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micromort ——————— With respect to crash statistics, obviously we're not going to ask people why they crashed. I would have thought this is so self-evidently flawed as a methodology that it didn't warrant pointing out. It's probably safer to assume that most people will lie about why they crashed. Fortunately, the statistical question is much simpler than it might seem: are people crashing newer cars more than older cars? Where answering this question becomes complex to answer accurately is when isolating this from both environmental change and vehicle age, because you can't isolate both variables at the same time.