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> the record is something like 6 weeks, so multiple years would be quite the outlier. You have to be very careful with this kind of informal statements, becaus
by MatteoFrigo 5y ago
> the record is something like 6 weeks, so multiple years would be quite the outlier.
You have to be very careful with this kind of informal statements, because probability is a tricky thing.
For example, assume that a vaccine has a probability P of causing long-term bad effects and that we observe historically that 1000 vaccines have no long-term bad effects. What can we rationally say about P? It would be tempting to conclude that P is zero or at least negligibly small (maybe 2^(-1000) or something). However, this cannot be the correct answer because if P were 1/1000, you would observe the historical pattern with probability .999^1000 ~= 1/e, or about 1/3 of the time. A more sophisticated analysis would conclude that it is very likely that P is somewhere between 0 and 2/1000, and if you believe a thing called the "Laplace Rule of Succession", the expected value of P is something like 1/1002.
Now, 1000 widely deployed vaccines sounds like a reasonable upper bound to the number of vaccines ever produced, which would suggest that the probability of this vaccine being safe is probably 100% but the error bar is O(1/1000). O(1/1000) is about the same as the probability of the virus killing me, so it is perfectly rational to have doubts.
- acdha 5y agoThe risk is certainly not zero but the calculation isn't that simple because the underlying mechanism isn't random. Vaccines work by training your immune system and don't persist in your body; for long-term concerns what we're really looking for is evidence that there's a previously-unknown time delay mechanism for immune responses or evidence of something specific to a disease such as the way Dengue fever can be more severe on a second infection (which is why the vaccine is restricted to people with a prior laboratory-confirmed infection). Again, I'm not saying that there's no chance of a problem but by now a billion people have been vaccinated and a significant number of people are 18+ months out, with no indication that any of these hypothetical scenarios are actually happening.
- LargoLasskhyfv 5y agoYah. But they can also carry and spread the virus. Vaccination doesn't make you clean(In this case) as we have already seen. It also increases the selection pressure, thereby creating even more new mutations(In this case). Isn't that hot? Always on the run for another shot! Ka-Ching!